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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 9 of 14 29 July 2012 at 8:18pm | IP Logged |
Teach yourself is good, yeah. Some dialogues are a bit too formal though - te has fallen into disuse as a polite form and is only used when addressing two or more people. Use various online exercises if those in the book aren't enough.
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| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7146 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek
| Message 10 of 14 29 July 2012 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
I haven't studied Finnish, but wanted to chime in with one other possible, if expensive, source for anyone with a very serious interest looking for a comprehensive course with lots of drill material.
It's the "Basic Course in Finnish" by Meri Lehtinen; you can get a feel for it by looking at the "Look Inside" feature on the Amazon page for it: http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Course-Finnish-Uralic-Altaic/dp/ 0700708278/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343590580&sr=8-1-spell &keywords=basic+coure+in+finnish
Copies of the original book, published by Indiana University, are almost impossible to come by, and the new Routledge reprint is outrageously expensive. But if you could find a copy, perhaps in a major library or via inter-library loan, the audio (many, many hours) is available to download at: http://www.iu.edu/~celtie/finnish_archive.html
One Amazon reviewer (on a different webpage than the one above, for some reason) said this about it:
"...It is by far the best learning tool for Finnish currently available. A good second is the book and recordings used by the Foreign Service Institute and available from the Department of Commerce through their NTIS series. Both courses use the same methodology (I own both), and they are effective and enjoyable to use.
"Lehtinen provides conversations and ample exercises, all reproduced in the book and recorded on the cassettes, and it explains grammar and Finnish sound changes clearly. It explains important aspects of pronunciation that I have not found in any other Finnish textbook, such as the occurrence of the glottal stop, which is pronounced but never written. The Foreign Service Institute course does equally well but is oriented toward the needs of State Department personnel.
"Other Finnish courses on the market are less than this (I own most of them too), and considering the complexity of Finnish they are just not up to the job."
(A revised new edition of this course was announced as being in preparation several years ago, but as far as I known isn't yet available.)
The book has no illustrations, and is arranged in accord with the "drill and kill" approach of the traditional FSI courses, but I have the impression that anyone with the persistence to work through it would end up with a good facility in the language.
Given the expense of the book, I might not have mentioned this as a possible resource, but for anyone seriously considering buying the Pimsleur course, I think Lehtinen's course would be a lot better investment, even if it's not for the faint-hearted.
Edited by daristani on 29 July 2012 at 10:03pm
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| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6127 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish
| Message 11 of 14 08 August 2012 at 7:48am | IP Logged |
If you have an iPod, iPad or iPhone, download the YLE Areena and the YLE Lapset applications. These are the best source for Finnish language TV and radio that I've found and they work from the USA. For some reason the YLE website blocks a lot of television when you're not in Finland.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 12 of 14 08 August 2012 at 9:57am | IP Logged |
because you don't pay televisiomaksu/Yle-vero. makes sense from their point of view.. :/
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4709 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 13 of 14 08 August 2012 at 10:22am | IP Logged |
Isn't there also FSI Finnish?
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 14 of 14 08 August 2012 at 2:21pm | IP Logged |
There is, with a disgusting audio and disgustingly boring. When I found it I already knew everything it teaches so it's not a must. The German-based Langenscheidt textbook is just as thorough and much, much better.
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