iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5262 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 17 of 39 18 December 2012 at 3:04am | IP Logged |
Top Sci Fi show in the US- Doctor Who How Doctor Who Won Over America. Top Gear is hugely popular on this side of the Atlantic NYT Richard Hammond parlaying Top Gear Success with New US based Show. Gordon Ramsey, too, had an American version of Kitchen Nightmares on ABC. The cross-cultural transmission goes both ways to some extent, but the US is always going to have more of an influence the other way around because of sheer numbers. Is Channel 5 still England's "American" channel?
Yes, there are differences between American English and British English. I know. I lived there for 10 years and have two English children living in the Northwest. I don't need an interpreter, nor do they. The cross-cultural transmission goes both ways.
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5556 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 18 of 39 18 December 2012 at 3:42am | IP Logged |
TobaccoSmoke wrote:
British English is only really associated with archaic forms of the English language, most typically Shakespeare and Chaucer..." |
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"I must to the barber's, monsieur; for methinks, I am marvellous hairy about the face: and I am such a tender ass, if my hair do but tickle me, I must scratch."
[Bottom, in A Midsummer's Night's Dream, Act IV, Scene I]
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 19 of 39 18 December 2012 at 8:27am | IP Logged |
TobaccoSmoke wrote:
In fact, I would expand that to say that British English is only really associated with
archaic forms of the English language, most typically Shakespeare and Chaucer, and that contemporary English is
almost always regarded as being primarily American. |
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This isn't true.
Edited by tractor on 18 December 2012 at 8:27am
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languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 5100 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai
| Message 20 of 39 18 December 2012 at 2:08pm | IP Logged |
We have a lot of dialects here in the UK, some that are difficult to understand even for
native British people, but I think we have the knowledge of having a "Standard English"
in comparison to "Queen's English"
I for one come from a city with an accent that is hard to understand for people in the UK
but I don't personally have said accent due to studying drama all my life, I've needed to
have the correct way of " speaking " English to then adjust to accents of other cities.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 21 of 39 18 December 2012 at 2:46pm | IP Logged |
''Does the UK have its own language?''
Yes, it's called Welsh
;)
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TobaccoSmoke Newbie England Joined 4374 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes
| Message 22 of 39 18 December 2012 at 3:35pm | IP Logged |
I think a large reason is British people are simply not as bothered about the "purity" of their language as the French or Spanish are.
Many French people, for example, find Quebecois absolutely cringe-worthy and definitely do not consider their vocabulary and grammatical differences to be equal to Standard (Parisian) French.
Same goes for many European Spanish speakers and their perception of South American dialects, although there is considerably more linguistic variety within Spain than there is within France.
British people, on the other hand, are mostly indifferent to American and other dialects of English.
While British spellings are generally preferred over American spellings, using American spelling and grammar is now regarded as permissible, and even the Oxford English Dictionary recommends "ize" over "ise".
For example, if a sign in the UK had "color" written on it rather than "colour", some people might notice that it's not the British spelling, but very few people would care and many wouldn't even notice.
Edited by TobaccoSmoke on 18 December 2012 at 3:37pm
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stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5832 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin
| Message 23 of 39 18 December 2012 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
TobaccoSmoke wrote:
For example, if a sign in the UK had "color" written on it rather than "colour", some people might notice that it's not the British spelling, but very few people would care and many wouldn't even notice. |
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I think you don't know what you're talking about. And this thread reminds me of some of the controversial threads started by ex member COF. Coincidence, I wonder?
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vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4772 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish
| Message 24 of 39 18 December 2012 at 7:46pm | IP Logged |
stelingo wrote:
TobaccoSmoke wrote:
For example, if a sign in the UK had "color" written on it rather than "colour", some people might notice that it's not the British spelling, but very few people would care and many wouldn't even notice. |
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I think you don't know what you're talking about. And this thread reminds me of some of the controversial threads started by ex member COF. Coincidence, I wonder? |
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Hmm, now that you mention it, I did get some déjà vu vibes from TobaccoSmoke's last comment. I wonder why...
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