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| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6960 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes  Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese | Message 1 of 5 16 January 2013 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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What do yu think about Saypu the "Spell as you Prounonce Universal Project"? Saypu.com Waat duu yuu think ɘbawt SaypYu thɘ "Speel az yuu Prounonce Yuunɘvɘrsɘl Praajekt" ? Saypu.com 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| ennime Tetraglot Senior Member South Africa universityofbrokengl Joined 5904 days ago 397 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English, Dutch*, Esperanto, Afrikaans Studies: Xhosa, French, Korean, Portuguese, Zulu | Message 2 of 5 16 January 2013 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think it is too confusing... orthography never is completely transparent in terms of pronounciation, because there are too many sounds... in such a case to be accurate it is better to just use IPA...
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6703 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 5 16 January 2013 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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A certain number of ortographic terrorists at crucial points in the development of the English language might have resulted in a more logical spelling. But with all the dialects and idiosyncratic crackpots around a totally free spelling would result in chaos. A certain amount of rebelliousness is healthy for a language, but complete chaos is not. Edited by Iversen on 16 January 2013 at 3:31pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5130 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 4 of 5 16 January 2013 at 3:50pm | IP Logged | ||
That's a rather specific pronunciation that isn't really applicable to a lot of the English-speaking world. R. == Edited by hrhenry on 16 January 2013 at 3:51pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Richard Burton Newbie Spain Joined 4332 days ago 34 posts - 64 votes Speaks: Ancient Greek* | Message 5 of 5 16 January 2013 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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It appears it is not a project of spelling reform for the English language, but aparently to write phonetically?/phonologically? any language by means of more or less the Latin alphabet; so it appears they are pursuing like a transcription system with almost no weird signs outside the Latin alphabet, e.g. they are not happy with the AFI transcription system. Of course this is naive since there are so many more sounds. It belies they are not familiar with inventory of sounds in languages around the world. Hobbyists trying to outsmart AFI. Nothing wrong with it, it is fine for entartainment.
The way I would do it would be to take the AFI table and, for unusual symbols I would choose a digraph or maybe use accents and umlaut; even so at the end you would have such a tremendous collection of letter combinations that it would look even worse and certainly not easier. Personally I defend AFI because if you use it all the time, you see the connections better and saves time. For example, I never saw anybody realizing that Polish retloflexes and others are perfectly useful for MChinese. If your materials use the symbols correctly, it becomes immediately apparent to you and, if you are familiar with Polish, you learn the Chinese consonants fast. I lernt that Adele is pronounced adeel :) though. I really needed that piece of information. This singer is becoming influential :) Edited by Richard Burton on 16 January 2013 at 4:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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