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Breogan
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| Message 9 of 14 05 May 2009 at 3:06pm | IP Logged |
Just for the record.
Welsh, Cornish and Breton belong to P-Celtic (Brithonic Group)
Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic and Manx belong to Q-Celtic (Goidelic Group)
The similarities are quite noticeable for languages of the same group.
Edited by Breogan on 05 May 2009 at 3:07pm
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| gogglehead
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| Message 10 of 14 05 May 2009 at 10:44pm | IP Logged |
The Elven Lord is the one to speak to in this case I would think. Haven't seen him in a while though.
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| Volte
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| Message 11 of 14 05 May 2009 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
TheElvenLord wrote:
I am writing through Volte due to me not being able to login.
This is The Elven Lord
Cornish is a very easy language to learn, providing you can get your head round a few differences which are common in all Celtic languages, such as mutations.
Jeff named the primary resources used by Cornish learners to learn, but I would also definitely reccommend TeachMe! Cornish by Linguashop -- The Kernewek Dre Lyther course has outdated prononciation but works like the very good Assimil system. I would reccommend it highly. The Skeul an Yeth textbooks are very good IF you have the patience to work through the 70 odd lessons there are. It is very comprehensive, and afterwards you will be able to speak very good Cornish, and fluently with practise
The second course which Jeff reccommended, i definitely would NOT.
Kernuak Es uses an outdated spelling system, which very few people use. It is only a beginners course and covers very little. It is free, which is a bonus, but I wouldnt bother with it.
The spelling of Cornish has now been standardised and is a lot closer to English than other Celtic languages, which makes it an excellent start. And being Cornish (and not English ARRRGH!!!WOOP) its also very close to you.
Welsh is very close to Cornish, especcially Vocabulary wise, but I wouldnt be able to say if it is easier to learn English > Welsh > Cornish or English > Cornish >Welsh (how I did it)
My reccommended course of action would be to Download the entire Kernewek Dre Lyther course, and buy TeachMe! Cornish
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| Patrick01
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| Message 12 of 14 19 August 2012 at 10:49pm | IP Logged |
Volte wrote:
TheElvenLord wrote:
I am writing through Volte due to me not being able to login.
This is The Elven Lord
Cornish is a very easy language to learn, providing you can get your head round a few differences which are common in all Celtic languages, such as mutations.
Jeff named the primary resources used by Cornish learners to learn, but I would also definitely reccommend TeachMe! Cornish by Linguashop -- The Kernewek Dre Lyther course has outdated prononciation but works like the very good Assimil system. I would reccommend it highly. The Skeul an Yeth textbooks are very good IF you have the patience to work through the 70 odd lessons there are. It is very comprehensive, and afterwards you will be able to speak very good Cornish, and fluently with practise
The second course which Jeff reccommended, i definitely would NOT.
Kernuak Es uses an outdated spelling system, which very few people use. It is only a beginners course and covers very little. It is free, which is a bonus, but I wouldnt bother with it.
The spelling of Cornish has now been standardised and is a lot closer to English than other Celtic languages, which makes it an excellent start. And being Cornish (and not English ARRRGH!!!WOOP) its also very close to you.
Welsh is very close to Cornish, especcially Vocabulary wise, but I wouldnt be able to say if it is easier to learn English > Welsh > Cornish or English > Cornish >Welsh (how I did it)
My reccommended course of action would be to Download the entire Kernewek Dre Lyther course, and buy TeachMe! Cornish
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Hey,
I started to learn Cornish using one of the recommendations posted above, Skeul an Yeth. After doing a few lessons, I went on Memrise and did the "Cornish Survival Course", and found the words to be different.
I now realize that Skeul an Yeth must be written in a version of Cornish that is now not the standard. I was planning to buy the TeachMe! Cornish program recommended, but I assume that is outdated as well.
Does anyone know of any programs or books that cover the most recent version of Cornish?
Thanks,
Patrick
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| montmorency
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| Message 13 of 14 20 August 2012 at 1:54pm | IP Logged |
@Patrick:
hmm....not necessarily. It could be Memrise which has picked up on the old standard.
Elvenlord was writing here only 3 years ago, and can the standard have changed that
much already?
@Volte:
Are you still in touch with Elevenlord?
He is probably the one to answer this.
For myself, I'd learn Welsh before Cornish, but it would be great to see a revival of
Cornish as well. Cornwall County Council should introduce bilingual signposts, etc. :)
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| Patrick01
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| Message 14 of 14 24 August 2012 at 1:14pm | IP Logged |
montmorency wrote:
@Patrick:
hmm....not necessarily. It could be Memrise which has picked up on the old standard.
Elvenlord was writing here only 3 years ago, and can the standard have changed that
much already?
@Volte:
Are you still in touch with Elevenlord?
He is probably the one to answer this.
For myself, I'd learn Welsh before Cornish, but it would be great to see a revival of
Cornish as well. Cornwall County Council should introduce bilingual signposts, etc. :)
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Well Skeul an Yeth was written in 1996 I think, and the most recent change to Cornish was in 2009.
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