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Papiamento - spoken on Aruba and Curaçao | ||
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| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 9 of 57 07 May 2010 at 9:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I'm planning to visit Aruba next year, so that's why I'm interested in learning it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 10 of 57 07 May 2010 at 9:51am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Sadly, I'm only just beginning Dutch, so a course in Dutch would be out of the question at the moment.
Spanish yes, Brazilian Portuguese no, Dutch see above. I'm definitely looking for something with audio to help with pronunciation - so despite my reservations with the quality of the series the EuroTalk software for under £18 will have to do. I can look at supplementing it with some of the resources you mentioned (assuming I can locate them at a reasonable cost). Thanks very much for the info by the way. Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5336 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 11 of 57 07 May 2010 at 11:55am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Have you met many Dutch people who learnt Papiamentu, Fasulye? I ask because I've never met anyone who spoke it who wasn't of Antillean descent. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 57 07 May 2010 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I was thinking that "Leidse Onderwijsinstellingen (LOI)" was offering a course of Papiamento, but I mixed it up, instead they offer a course of Indonesian (also a former Dutch colony).
No, so far I haven't met anybody in the Netherlands studying Papiamento. So I cannot offer statistic proof. But I assume that, if people speak Dutch, it will be easier for them to find a course of Papiamento. I have just interviewed my Dutch friend on the topic: He says that all speakers of Papiamento speak Dutch as well and therefore - generally speaking - Dutch people don't have much motivation to learn this language, because they can communicate in Dutch with everyone living on the Dutch Antilles. He says that Papiamento dictionaries exist, but he could not tell me in which language combination. Perhaps this gives a bit more background on the sitatuation of Papiamento. Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 13 of 57 07 May 2010 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Certainly, on Aruba the "official" language is Dutch but the predominant language appears to be Papiamento, so I could get away with only learning Dutch. However, I would like to make some effort to communicate in "their" language to some degree even it involves nothing more than learning the common courtesies. Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 14 of 57 07 May 2010 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I find it a good idea that you are eager to learn Papiamento and my guess is that people on Aruba will feel proud to hear foreigners speak their language (even if it's on some lower level of fluency). In my opinion it's also worth learning smaller languages. So, good luck with the project!!! Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7222 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 15 of 57 09 May 2010 at 9:25am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thanks for the kind words Andy E, Anyway instead of waiting for somebody else to review Eurotalk for you. Here is the company site you can try it out for yourself and I directed it straight to the Papiamento language. Eurotalk! Of course in addition to Brazilian Portuguese, Spanish and Dutch, there are English and French influence, also some Arawak Indian and African languages. In my opinion there are more influence of the first three languages on Papiamento. Here is a list of Papiamento to English words for quick recognition. Here! Good luck to you and anybody else interested in learning this beautiful language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| urubu Pentaglot Groupie Germany Joined 6607 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes Speaks: German*, Dutch, Portuguese, Indonesian, English | Message 16 of 57 09 May 2010 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I know/have three papiamentu dictionaries, all dutch-papiamentu -Joubert, Handwoordenboek Nederlands-Papiaments -Joubert, Handwoordenboek Papiaments-Nederlands These two are excellent, both are hardcovers, +/- 400 pages, 22.000 entries each -Dijkhoff, Dikshonario - Woordenboek Papiamentu<>Ulandes Bilingual, paperback, 310 pages, much more limited, maybe +/-7000 entries each 1 person has voted this message useful |
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