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ruskivyetr
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 Message 17 of 57
09 May 2010 at 3:48pm | IP Logged 
I would definitely like to learn Papiamento some day (the Papiamento of Aruba most likely as it can vary from place
to place). I would most likely tackle Dutch first, as I really do want to learn Dutch, but also as I can see from this
thread, Papiamento materials would most likely be better if one is learning the language Dutch-Papiamento rather
than English Papiamento. I'd imagine that the grammar would be relatively simple. Could anyone provide any insight
onto any more information about the language?
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urubu
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 Message 18 of 57
09 May 2010 at 6:14pm | IP Logged 
ruskivyetr wrote:
I'd imagine that the grammar would be relatively simple. Could anyone
provide any insight onto any more information about the language?


This blog has a lot of excellent info on Papiamento:

http://www.pagef30.com/search/label/Papiamento

Especially this post:

http://www.pagef30.com/2009/03/why-language-called-papiament u-might-be.html
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kyssäkaali
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09 May 2010 at 6:27pm | IP Logged 
I dunno if this has been asked already, but how close is this language to Spanish? I've also been intrigued by Papiamento/u for some time but would hate to learn a Spanish clone...
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Andy E
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09 May 2010 at 10:29pm | IP Logged 
alang wrote:
Anyway instead of waiting for somebody else to review Eurotalk for you. Here is the company site you can try it out for yourself and I directed it straight to the Papiamento language.
Eurotalk!



Thanks for that. I tried it out and the course is now on order from Amazon UK.
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urubu
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 Message 21 of 57
09 May 2010 at 11:44pm | IP Logged 
kyssäkaali wrote:
I dunno if this has been asked already, but how close is this
language to Spanish? I've also been intrigued by Papiamento/u for some time but would
hate to learn a Spanish clone...


Except for the -nan plural and the lo/ta/tabata/tabatin particles instead of verb
conjugation, I think it basically is a Spanish clone (on a creole Portuguese base,
with a generous helping of Dutch added for good measure).

Rather similar to Afrikaans vs. Dutch, come to think of it.

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alang
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10 May 2010 at 11:34pm | IP Logged 

I just contacted the administrator about Papiamento and has added the language on the list. Now members can choose to put it on their hit, studying or speaks list.


IMO I do not think it is a Spanish clone, but labels on creoles are difficult to explain exactly. Example the Spanish based creole Chavacano. I read some people say it is not Spanish. While others say it is, but broken Spanish.

I do not think Chavacano is Spanish, but a language on it's own. Like what I just wrote it is opinion
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ReneeMona
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 Message 23 of 57
10 May 2010 at 11:41pm | IP Logged 
alang wrote:
I just contacted the administrator about Papiamento and has added the language on the list. Now members can choose to put it on their hit, studying or speaks list.


Thank you alang! I'm going to put it on my list right away.
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Andy E
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11 May 2010 at 7:48am | IP Logged 
alang wrote:

I just contacted the administrator about Papiamento and has added the language on the list. Now members can choose to put it on their hit, studying or speaks list.


Thanks for doing that.

Andy.


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