emptysilo3 Newbie United States Joined 5075 days ago 6 posts - 8 votes
| Message 25 of 30 25 May 2011 at 4:11am | IP Logged |
BiaHuda wrote:
Vietnamese is very difficult. I learned to speak a bit before ever learning to read it. This is
probably a good idea. I was amazed at the the way the words I was speaking were actually written. The
pronunciation from North to South is universally understandable, but the middle dialect is quite different. I can also
say that I can count on one hand the number of Westerners that I have heard actually speaking Vietnamese with any
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One hand is better than none.
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Gateway Newbie Australia Joined 5448 days ago 13 posts - 15 votes
| Message 26 of 30 25 May 2011 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
I am doing the Pimsleur course and teach yourself again from scratch...I only got about halfway before stopping a few months ago.
It seems easier the second time (not surprising)....pimsleur is good too and I have some Vietnamese to speak to sometimes now too.
And yes it is a very hard language too learn......I have had a go at Mandarin and I found it easier to pick up,,though I never went far with it. My Goal is Mandarin and Vietnamese to communicate verbally here and O/S.
I wishtheir were more resourcesavailablefor this language.
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Edited by Gateway on 25 May 2011 at 11:58am
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learnviet_ Newbie Singapore learnvietthrumusic.f Joined 4975 days ago 5 posts - 6 votes
| Message 27 of 30 25 May 2011 at 12:49pm | IP Logged |
nway wrote:
^ I'm trying, but it's easily the most difficult language for me to speak of any I've ever
attempted (that includes Cantonese, Thai, and Arabic). |
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It's all about practice, but being a tonal language makes it a little harder
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learnviet_ Newbie Singapore learnvietthrumusic.f Joined 4975 days ago 5 posts - 6 votes
| Message 28 of 30 25 May 2011 at 12:54pm | IP Logged |
I have another way which I use quite effectively. But I can't post it here or my post will be deleted. Haha
Gateway wrote:
I am doing the Pimsleur course and teach yourself again from scratch...I only got about
halfway before stopping a few months ago.
It seems easier the second time (not surprising)....pimsleur is good too and I have some Vietnamese to
speak to sometimes now too.
And yes it is a very hard language too learn......I have had a go at Mandarin and I found it easier to pick
up,,though I never went far with it. My Goal is Mandarin and Vietnamese to communicate verbally here and
O/S.
I wishtheir were more resourcesavailablefor this language.
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xees Newbie Joined 5053 days ago 28 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Vietnamese
| Message 29 of 30 29 May 2011 at 4:10pm | IP Logged |
Hey I'm currently studying Vietnamese.
I've reached about an intermediate level in Vietnamese after about 10 months time; it should be said that I live in Vietnam so I have obvious advantages. I should also mentioned that I'm English and don't know any other tonal or asian languages.
About Vietnamese: You should really find out whether they come from the south, the north or the middle. If they are from the north then you should go with the northern pronunciation if from the south...well the southern pronunciation. There is quite a big difference in pron and the 2 accents sound extremely different to me.
As for the tones: In southern Vietnamese there are only actually 5 tones as two tones (the hỏi (ả) and the ngã (ã)) are merged into just one tone; this actually leads to some funny mistakes: I have seen on the road side a sign advertising motorbike repairs saying 'Milk' (Sữa = milk, sửa = repair). So in fact some southerners occasionally make mistakes between similar words with these tone differences because of they are pronounced the same in the south.
In 8 months (or as it is now 5 months) you can certainly learn the basic phrases to greet them, ask them if they would like to drink / eat more.
Also to echo what lots of people in this thread have said, it's very rare to find a foreigner that speaks Vietnamese with proficiency as most of the ex-pat community don't bother.
If you have any questions about anything give me a message and i'll try to help in any way I can.
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maraschino912 Newbie Vietnam francis147.wordpress Joined 4485 days ago 7 posts - 9 votes Speaks: Vietnamese* Studies: English, French
| Message 30 of 30 16 August 2012 at 6:58am | IP Logged |
Well, I'm a Vietnamese, and I understand your difficulty in Vnese. However, some Vnese can't spell or write right then we sympathize with you, who try to learn.
I had read some books for VNese learners, and there was something far from the language I use everyday. I don't say it wrong, we can understand it but we fairly say such sentences.
You can add my Y!h maraschino129 if you like chatter-chitter in real VNese, and you can also how to write Vnese, too :D
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