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zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5342 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 1 of 14 27 February 2011 at 12:48am | IP Logged |
I was wondering what others thought of Fluenz when compared to Rosetta Stone. I had came
across Fluenz and it seemed quite nice where Rosetta Stone fails to do. I was wondering,
is it worth the $350 or whatever the price is of it?
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| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6067 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 2 of 14 27 February 2011 at 1:19am | IP Logged |
long answer?
google "fluenz site:http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/"
short answer?
no
details?
yeah, it is better than rosetta stone but there are better and cheaper options
Edited by tmp011007 on 27 February 2011 at 1:20am
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arashikat Diglot Pro Member United States Joined 4675 days ago 53 posts - 80 votes Speaks: Tagalog*, English Studies: Korean Personal Language Map
| Message 3 of 14 24 February 2012 at 7:01pm | IP Logged |
I recently got myself a copy of Fluenz French to see what it's like, and I've only checked out the first session of level one. Fluenz has a "start from scratch" style, and it suits my learning style quite well. I like how it's detailed enough to make me feel like I'm "getting a good foundation" by starting from the very basics (product of Filipino schooling, I guess). Oh, and I love the fact that I have a "teacher." LOL.
I'll update this to share how Fluenz works for me.
I've tried Rosetta Stone before (back in undergrad, when I thought I had to take a foreign language course--I played a bit with French--it turned out I only had to take the TOEFL), but I don't think I've spent enough time with it to give a complete, well-informed review of the product. However, I did go through five lessons, and to be quite honest, I don't remember much of what I learned. I remember a horse, a boy playing under a table, a mother and daughter in a car... I matched pictures, listened and matched what I heard to words, and recorded myself saying the words I heard. It didn't really suit my learning style. Nothing was being explained (true to their full immersion guarantee), and I was bored after the first lesson.
Bottomline: It really depends on your learning preferences, and I personally prefer Fluenz over Rosetta Stone.
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| paisley Groupie United States Joined 5710 days ago 59 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin
| Message 4 of 14 04 March 2012 at 11:20pm | IP Logged |
I can only speak for Mandarin, but Mandarin Fluenz is about 100x better than RS mandarin. And Amen about the Rosetta Stone and freakin horse (and the trucks and the ships, like, gimme a freakin break, they're obsessed with horses and other things i will not be talking about in the first year of learning a language).
Fluenz = lots of explanation and good for start from scratch, RS is... good luck, enjoy saying random things. lol. Good for non-beginners.
Fluenz is expensive, just make sure you get whatever whichever program has the most levels, more bang for the buck.
Edited by paisley on 04 March 2012 at 11:21pm
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| PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4732 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 5 of 14 05 March 2012 at 8:04am | IP Logged |
I have to defend RS on at least one point.
It's perfectly reasonable for them to think that a large percentage of their customers are people who are planning on traveling in the foreseeable future (meaning comparatively soon). Therefore, all forms of transportation and means of taking tours are fair game. So I don't find it at all odd that cars, trucks, vans, buses, trains, airplanes, ships, boats, and bicycles should all come up before too terribly long.
Now, on the other hand, the relatively early introduction of elephants and penguins seemed a bit random. Also, their desire to keep their different language courses as uniform as possible leads to Latin American Spanish introducing ice hockey at about the same time as baseball, which makes no sense in the cultures where that language is spoken.
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| paisley Groupie United States Joined 5710 days ago 59 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin
| Message 6 of 14 06 March 2012 at 5:47am | IP Logged |
PillowRock wrote:
I have to defend RS on at least one point.
It's perfectly reasonable for them to think that a large percentage of their customers are people who are planning on traveling in the foreseeable future (meaning comparatively soon). Therefore, all forms of transportation and means of taking tours are fair game. So I don't find it at all odd that cars, trucks, vans, buses, trains, airplanes, ships, boats, and bicycles should all come up before too terribly long.
Now, on the other hand, the relatively early introduction of elephants and penguins seemed a bit random. Also, their desire to keep their different language courses as uniform as possible leads to Latin American Spanish introducing ice hockey at about the same time as baseball, which makes no sense in the cultures where that language is spoken. |
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Yeah, i couldn't remember the other things that were more random. lol. i could swear i remember a rhinoceros in there as well. the vocabulary just seemed a bit off.
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| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4699 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese
| Message 7 of 14 06 March 2012 at 7:44am | IP Logged |
It actually isn't off so much. The fact you didn't like the course is one thing. Pulling weird stuff like "i could swear i saw a rhinoceros somewhere" or "early introduction of elephants and penguins" out of ... where ever is a bit too much.
You get man, woman, boy, girl, to eat, to drink, table, restaurant... and so on, which is really pretty basic and useful. You'll also encounter transportation in a bit more detail in around level 2 (but shopping, too). If you actually want to learn the language, you'll come across all the words sooner or later anyways, so why not chew it up?
Rosetta Stone may fail on MANY levels, but let's criticize it for what it is and what it's not. Not for stuff like "i swear i saw her dancing naked with her black cat on her shoulder last full moon".
If RS can actually accomplish something, it's vocabulary. Even if it's really subpar at other things and definitely not worth the money. Then again, you may be able to lend it at your library, so.. yeah. In THAT case, you get a few hundred words for free (maybe more, I don't know), plus exposure to audio recorded with native speakers. Also, you get to see beginner level grammar structures in action (sans explanation, but don't tell me using RS prevents you from accessing other resources).
I don't care if HTLAL is Anti-RS-Central and if I make myself unpopular with this posting.
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| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6067 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 8 of 14 06 March 2012 at 4:33pm | IP Logged |
atama warui wrote:
"i swear i saw her dancing naked with her black cat on her shoulder last full moon". |
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I do love those kind of sentences.. it would be nice to know how to say that in japanese, mandarin and russian (and I'm not kidding -not at all)
atama warui wrote:
If RS can actually accomplish something, it's vocabulary. |
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maybe RS2.. RS3/4 isn't that good in that aspect
atama warui wrote:
Even if it's really subpar at other things and definitely not worth the money. |
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not just the money but, depending on your goals, not the time either
atama warui wrote:
Also, you get to see beginner level grammar structures in action |
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maybe. but it's not really that accurate, or useful, if you're learning no western langs
atama warui wrote:
I don't care if HTLAL is Anti-RS-Central and if I make myself unpopular with this posting. |
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come on, don't be like Benny Lewis now xD
btw, I use RS contents (from its pdfs) from time to time comparing basic structures and vocabulary.. I would SRS them but..
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