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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5335 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 41 of 107 26 February 2012 at 6:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Every single adult I have ever met, who were sorry for not spending more time at school at any partucular topic, are sorry that they did not spend more time on languages. Not one has been sorry that he did not study more chemistry. Also, when people are asked about their dreams, a substantial amount of people answer that they would have liked to learn a foreign language (here in Norway, typically Spanish), I have never ever heard of anyone who had it as his life dream to study more chemistry. I respect that your view is that chemistry is an important subject, but to me it was just a major pain, that I needed to get through in order to do what mattered, and stil matters in my life: Study languages. I hate Latin, but given the choice between Latin and chemistry, I would have chosen Latin every day of the week. Oh, and for the actual topic: Although studying Russian is proving the toughest thing I have ever done in my life, I would still recommend it to everyone. It has beauty, great literature, masses of native and secondary speakers and hence opens up most of Eastern Europe for you. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 42 of 107 26 February 2012 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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And how do you think it maintains that power?
With 11 aircraft carriers and other weapon. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5416 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 43 of 107 26 February 2012 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
And how do you think it acquired those weapons? By purchasing them. With money. 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Itikar Groupie Italy Joined 4670 days ago 94 posts - 158 votes Speaks: Italian* | Message 44 of 107 26 February 2012 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
I believe a Greek can get better the Bulgarian verbs because (modern) Greek has aorist and lacks infinitives too. :) I think it has also some kind of verbal aspect. This is due to a phenomenon called Sprachbund. The vocabulary and other grammatical aspects of course are different. Moreover while in Russian non-finite tenses of perfective and imperfective verbs can be compared to the tenses of a single Romance verb, the same is not directly true for Bulgarian. I mean that : "я смотрел = je regardais" and "я посмотрел = j'ai regardé/je regardai". Bulgarian being richer I don't think would fit so well in this kind of comparisons. Quite ironically in Latin many Italian students don't find big troubles in the declensions, except maybe for some marginal ambiguous details, but in verb conjugations and especially in Latin subordinate clauses. And Russian declension is even "better" than Latin ones, except for some plural genitives and some kind of "overlap" between genitive and accusative of male animate nouns (and plural genitives and plural accusatives of female animate nouns, to be complete). Instrumental case can be a bit strange at the beginning but then its wide regularity pays off everything. With this absolutely I don't want to say nor that Russian is easier than Bulgarian, or vice versa, neither that Russian is easier than Bulgarian for a native speaker of a Romance language. Yet I believe Bulgarian may result more difficult than it might appear, to the point that for some people there would not be so much difference between it and Russian. And I am sure that as someone would find one harder, someone else would find harder the other one. Edited by Itikar on 26 February 2012 at 6:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 45 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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And Russian declension is even "better" than Latin ones, except for some plural genitives
and some kind of "overlap" between genitive and accusative of male animate nouns (and plural genitives and plural accusatives of female animate nouns, to be complete). Instrumental case can be a bit strange at the beginning but then its wide regularity pays off everything. Russian declension is not better than Latin: stress, fleeting vowels, plurals, special locative, numbers (only adjectives are better than the Latin ones). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Itikar Groupie Italy Joined 4670 days ago 94 posts - 158 votes Speaks: Italian* | Message 46 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Special locative: there is in Latin as well, together with many other things like "домой" and "дома"
nouns with "proper" declensions: far worse in Latin than in Russian. Plurals: way better than Latin ones, except for maybe plural genitives. fleeting vowels and stress: Latin has vowel lengths instead. And they are both not extremely critical. Numbers: they are trickier in Russian. Adjectives: although they could appear slightly simplier I think they are worse in Russian. Latin adjectives pratically follow the normal noun declensions. Russian ones have their own modified declension, and even with variants! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 47 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
It may be because someone just jumping in might think you are saying it's the only indicator. If this was the case, you would see a 1 to 1 correlation, which doesn't exist. For example, Japan's economy is bigger than Germany's, but German is more studied. Also, I don't know if it was you who brought this up or somebody else, but there is no need to compare language learning to learning other things. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 48 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Special locative: there is in Latin as well, together with many other things like
"домой" and "дома" nouns with "proper" declensions: far worse in Latin than in Russian. It is regular. Plurals: way better than Latin ones, except for maybe plural genitives. No. In Latin you can make any form of a noun from its genetive nearly always, while in Russian you can't. fleeting vowels and stress: Latin has vowel lengths instead. And they are both not extremely critical. Vowel lenghts are regular. Fleeting vowels also exist in Latin (ager agri, but vesper vesperi), but there are fewer. Stresses and fleeting vowels are cruсial (especially stresses). Most Russian adjectives have the same declension pattern. Edited by Марк on 26 February 2012 at 7:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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