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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 49 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
We can compare Japanese with French. The result will be brighter. French is studied by much more native speakers of other languages than Japanese. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Itikar Groupie Italy Joined 4670 days ago 94 posts - 158 votes Speaks: Italian* | Message 50 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Provided you don't misunderstand a genitive for another case with a similiar ending, a thing that, believe me, happens more frequently than one might expect.
Many nominatives cannot so easily be obtained from genitives. Regis --> Rex Vocis --> Vox Stress is of course crucial in understanding isolated words --> окна - окна (with accent is possible to distinguish genitive singular from nominative plural) But in conversation context or another sentence often help even if I miss a right accent. Regarding adjectives: "domus iuvenis hominis" = "дом молодого человека" And "homo/hominis" is even an irregular noun. Besides: Why this grudge against a poor dead language? :( Only few individuals study it by their own free will, unlike Russian. Edited by Itikar on 26 February 2012 at 7:54pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5416 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 51 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
Blue: Number of results on Google for "learn _____", indicating interest in learning the language Red: GDP (PPP), as measured by the International Monetary Fund, for the year 2011, in billions USD We can argue all day that many smokers live longer than many non-smokers, but the general trend still exists that smoking, on average, reduces life expectancy. We can argue all day that many Americans are poorer than many Chinese, but the general trend still exists that Americans, on average, are wealthier than Chinese. Yada yada yada, etc. etc. etc. I'm not talking about the difference between Japanese and French. I'm talking about the difference between languages with massive economies like Japanese and French, on one hand, and languages with tiny economies like Lao and Igbo, on the other hand. Edited by nway on 26 February 2012 at 8:11pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 52 of 107 26 February 2012 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
What other nominatives could these woeds have? Anyway we usually learn words nom. with gen. Stress in Russian changes the phonetical image of a word dramatically. Latin is studied by some people with enthusiasm too, but in general you are right. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 53 of 107 26 February 2012 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
If we did either of those things, it would look like we're resorting to analogies because our arguments are weak. GDP is not the only factor that influences the number of language learners. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5416 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 54 of 107 26 February 2012 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
No one said it is. Smoking is not the only factor that influences life expectancy—but it's a big one. Nationality is not the only factor that influences personal wealth—but it's a big one. GDP is not the only factor that influences the number of language learners—but it's a big one. Edited by nway on 26 February 2012 at 8:09pm 8 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 55 of 107 26 February 2012 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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What GDP should we take for each language?
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| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5416 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 56 of 107 26 February 2012 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
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^ I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
For my data, I aggregated the GDP figures for each (or most) of the countries that natively speaks that language, and applied any necessary modifications (e.g., 64% of Switzerland's GDP was allocated to German, while 20% of Switzerland's GDP was allocated to French, which parallels the linguistic makeup of the country [I assume neither community is significantly richer than the other], and a similar procedure was done for Belgium). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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