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| Wulf Newbie United States traditionalisth Joined 4572 days ago 10 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Persian | Message 1 of 9 13 June 2012 at 12:30am | IP Logged | ||
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Okay, so i downloaded Byki Express for Persian.
I like the program. A lot. But when it comes time for me to type a word in Persian, it tells me I am wrong. Every single time. Even when the text I have typed matches the text on the flashcard exactly, it still says that my answer is wrong! It's a little frustrating to have to enter an "alternate answer" for every single word. I have better things to do with my time, and it makes me re-think whether I am going to spring for the paid version. Anyone else have this problem with Byki, in Persian or any other language? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6231 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Russian | Message 2 of 9 13 June 2012 at 4:30am | IP Logged | ||
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I use the Russian Byki. I do not have problems with it. The only alternate answers I do are for things like, I am... or I'm...
I find it a very helpful program. but I have never used Byki in other languages. Edited by hobbitofny on 13 June 2012 at 4:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4699 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 3 of 9 13 June 2012 at 11:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I used it for Japanese for some time. Found it pretty helpful. Too bad it doesn't have SRS. While it does some reps, I don't get the underlying mechanisms.
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| Wulf Newbie United States traditionalisth Joined 4572 days ago 10 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Persian | Message 4 of 9 14 June 2012 at 12:06am | IP Logged | ||
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Does it not use SRS? I always get the feeling, when I miss a word, that I see it repeated more frequently in the session than the ones I got right.
Though I never sat and tallied the repetitions, so maybe I just notice those words more because I'm aware I got them wrong before? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4699 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 5 of 9 15 June 2012 at 1:35am | IP Logged | ||
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BYKI uses *some* kind of repetition. Of course, while learning, it pushes you back a few notches whenever you got a word wrong - which is a great thing in my book.
However, the repetitions after you "mastered" the words are confusing. The program seems to assume you actually know words you never got wrong while learning perfectly well, which is not always the case for me... I actually do forget words. If they're never asked again, I will forget them. After doing the due words (not many!), if you continue to repeat, it's always the same handful of stuff the program asks you to repeat. However, I'd like to give BYKI another chance if there actually is some kind of SRS incorporated. I found the learning mode excellent. It's probably the best drill ever programmed. After you learned a word, you're very likely to re-learn it effortlessly even if you actually forgot it. So, what do you think? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4663 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 6 of 9 15 June 2012 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the pointer. Downloading now ... (you can never have too many language sources :-)) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4699 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 7 of 9 16 June 2012 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm currently experimenting a bit with creating excel based lists from the memrise stuff I'm having trouble with. You know, those problem words that just won't stick no matter what - memrise is great as is, but BYKI drills them with a sledgehammer. Sometimes that's needed I guess..
The problem is, that the BYKI Express version can only import B4U files, not XML, but maybe I'll find a way to make it work... If there was a Deluxe version online as a torrent somewhere, that would solve the problem, too. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6231 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian | Message 8 of 9 16 June 2012 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | ||
That is very true, but the full version has some games which help with this problem. I use the games to learn and review. I use the flash cards to be sure I remember them. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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