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aokoye
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 Message 9 of 24
15 June 2012 at 5:02pm | IP Logged 
Japanese books that are primarily in romanji unless you only want to speak.
Dictionaries that don't tell you the gender of the word (in languages that have gendered nouns).
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jazzboy.bebop
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 Message 10 of 24
15 June 2012 at 5:08pm | IP Logged 
For Norwegian learners, steer clear of "Norwegian Verbs and Essentials of Grammar" by Louis Janus.

It was written by a non-native and seemingly not checked by any natives as it is littered with spelling errors, unnatural language and some things which are just plain wrong. A lot of it is great and well presented but there are far too many errors in there. It would be a great resource if a new edition were published and properly edited.
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nakrian keegiat
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 Message 11 of 24
15 June 2012 at 5:38pm | IP Logged 
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Any so-called "language course" with just a CD (or more) and thin booklet with phrases.


I wouldn't be so quick to judge. There are several products like this for Thai that are very good.
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Chung
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 Message 12 of 24
15 June 2012 at 5:40pm | IP Logged 
I heartily discourage everyone from using Christopher Moseley's "Colloquial Estonian" per this post of mine and echoed by shapd.
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t123
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 Message 13 of 24
15 June 2012 at 6:27pm | IP Logged 
Avoid Teach Yourself Slovene and Colloquial Slovene by Andrea Albretti. There is a new Colloquial Slovene by a different author. Although I've haven't seen it, it
cannot possibly be worse that the others.
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 Message 14 of 24
15 June 2012 at 7:31pm | IP Logged 
DaraghM wrote:
What courses would you strongly advise against using and why ? I'm not thinking about
courses that don't suit your learning style, but ones with fundamental mistakes or difficulties.

My list would be,
...Read and Think in French - Fundamental mistakes in writing. E.g. Mon femme


Is this the ie=UTF8&qid=1339780418&sr=8-1&keywords=read+and+think+in+fre nch">Read and Think French (no
"in" in the title), by the editors of Think French! magazine?

If so, I'm sorry to hear that - I'd been reading it, and hadn't noticed any errors. (Well, not the "mon femme" one,
at any rate..) I'll check the copy (from the library) again, and see if perhaps it had been fixed in that edition. Were
there any other egregious errors you can think of? - I'm at the A2 level, and might not necessarily know if
something's wrong.
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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 15 of 24
16 June 2012 at 12:12am | IP Logged 
nakrian keegiat wrote:
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Any so-called "language course" with just a CD (or more) and a thin booklet with phrases.


I wouldn't be so quick to judge. There are several products like this for Thai that are very good.


I'm not saying you can't learn something from such a product, but calling it a language course... Not a single one of those I have seen has had any grammar explanations at all. How anybody could learn a language without even knowing which words were pronouns, verbs etc. is beyond my comprehension. It's like the old phrase books with all kinds of tourist questions but hardly ever any answers. How on earth would you be able to "converse" with a native?
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nakrian keegiat
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 Message 16 of 24
16 June 2012 at 4:17am | IP Logged 
None of the ones I mentioned refer to themselves as "courses". They are mostly supplemental material but can still be very useful. It isn't reasonable to fault them for not teaching grammar just like it isn't reasonable to expect a grammar book to teach conversation. If they contain useful, well presented material then they could/should have a place in a learner's overall learning plan.




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