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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4666 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes  Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 41 of 42 28 June 2012 at 6:08pm | IP Logged |
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PLATICAR in the Oxford Spanish Dictionary:
PLATICAR [A2] verbo intransitivo (especialmente América Latina) [this verb is widely used in Mexico and Central America but is literary in other areas] to talk, chat (familiar); '''platicaron de muchas cosas'' they talked about many things; ''pasa por casa para que platiquemos un rato'' drop in for a chat o so we can have a chat PLATICAR verbo transitivo (México) (contar) to tell; ''platícame cómo te fue en el viaje'' tell me how your trip went PlATICAR in the Argentinian ''Diccionario integral del español de la Argentina'' (Voz Activa/Clarín): Platicar MÉ, charlar (source:) http://www.clarin.com/diccionario These two dictionaries are the best (and the most accurate) dictionaries of Spanish I've found. Most dictionaries made in Spain fail to label the usage correctly (if you look at entries like LINDO and PILLAR in the RAE dictionary you can't guess that LINDO is almost never used in Spain, and that PILLAR does not mean ''to catch'' in Argentina and Uruguay, but ''to piss'' (pronounced as PEESHAHR ; Or that for the word GUAPO, the 1st ''non colloquial'' definition in RAE is the one which is used in South America, but not elsewhere. According to RAE, guapo for handsome is colloquial, but it should be: Spain , México and Central America: general Spanish of Spain and Central America, and not colloquial universal Spanish )). GUAPO in the RAE dictionary (an example of vague lexicography): guapo, pa. (Del lat. vappa, vino estropeado, hombre vil, vagabundo). 1. adj. coloq. Bien parecido. 2. adj. coloq. Animoso, bizarro y resuelto, que desprecia los peligros y los acomete. U. t. c. s. 3. adj. coloq. Ostentoso, galán y lucido en el modo de vestir y presentarse. 4. adj. coloq. U. en vocativo, vacío de significado, como expresión de cariño, a veces con retintín o con tono de irritación. Cállate un poquito, guapo 5. m. Hombre pendenciero y perdonavidas. It should be like this: GUAPO 1. Spain, México, Central America: handsome (for men), beautiful (for women) 2. Spain, México, Central America: smart, elegant 3. Spain; colloquial: nice: un coche guapo (a nice car) 4. South America & Cuba: brave, gutsy 5. South America & Cuba; colloquial: cocky: ponerse guapo (to get cocky) 6. Chile; colloquial: tough, strict If I were to find a universal word in Spanish for ''good-looking'', I would have to go with BONITO, but many Spaniards will say: '' We don't really use BONITO for people anymore, it sounds tacky, we use GUAPO for people, and BONITO for things (although many people are starting to use GUAPO for things as well; and we never use LINDO in Spain either for people or for things, it sounds Latin American).''. In Southern Cone, the answer is, BONITO for people is fine, but we prefer LINDO, and we never use GUAPO because GUAPO means brave, or gutsy (as in LOS GUAPOS DEL TANGO)...So, maybe we should chose HERMOSO instead of BONITO for ''good-looking'' in universal/neutral Spanish. UN HOMBRE LINDO sounds awful in Spain, but you can be sure that UN COCHE GUAPO sounds even more horrible to a South American ear. ;) It's UN AUTO LINDO (Argentina, Chile, Uruguay) or UN CARRO LINDO (Colombia). Edited by Medulin on 28 June 2012 at 6:44pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5781 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 42 of 42 28 June 2012 at 10:57pm | IP Logged |
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I once got corrected by a Mexican for using "charlar" to mean "chat" (as they do in
Spain) and was told to use platicar. If I remember correctly FSI Spanish uses "conversar" where Platiquemos uses "platicar", 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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