Ricey83 Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5246 days ago 12 posts - 12 votes Studies: English*, Italian
| Message 1 of 7 02 July 2012 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
Hi everyone, just a quick question.
I'm currently learning itlain using Assimil in the passive stage and I was wondering what peoples thoughts were regarding writing every lesson down in the passive stage instead of just being 'passive'?
Does anyone have experience doing it this way?
Thanks
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5451 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 2 of 7 02 July 2012 at 4:47pm | IP Logged |
Some Assimil books suggest you write everything down during the active phase.
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mikonai Diglot Senior Member United States weirdnamewriting.bloRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4927 days ago 178 posts - 281 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Swahili, German
| Message 3 of 7 02 July 2012 at 7:19pm | IP Logged |
When you get to the active "wave" (or phase), my Assimil Italian book recommends that
you translate the English to Italian orally and also in writing, if you like. The idea
with the passive phase is to just get used to the sound of the language and work on
your translation from Italian to English.
I'd say if an idiom or something strikes you as funny, maybe write down that phrase,
and if you want to keep track of vocabulary, that's what I did. For the most part I'd
say keep pretty relaxed in the passive phase. But I certainly didn't use Assimil quite
as the instructions said, and I don't think it's such a big deal if you deviate from
the strictly intended usage. Be aware, though, that their intent is for you to get to
the real work after Lesson 50, in the active phase. The only thing I'd really be
concerned about is when you're doing both a passive and active lesson every day (like
they say), it may get to be more work than you'd like if you're writing everything down
in both phases.
It's whatever you think, though. I've tried never to be too stuck on doing exactly as a
course tells me to, since they all over-sell themselves at least a little.
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Scorpicus Triglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5333 days ago 27 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, ItalianB2, FrenchB2 Studies: Russian
| Message 4 of 7 02 July 2012 at 7:30pm | IP Logged |
I definitely found it beneficial to write out the lessons during the active wave to better learn spellings and sentence structure etc. In the passive wave, though, I think you are best doing what Assimil says and just absorb the information passively. You might not realize it, but you are indeed learning that way.
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sekard Newbie England Joined 4692 days ago 10 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian
| Message 5 of 7 03 July 2012 at 9:13am | IP Logged |
I'll back up what Scorpicus said.I'm doing exactly the same thing in the active stage,which is writing out the
dialogues in TL whilst listening to them at the same time.You don't want to bog yourself down too much in the
passive stage ,plus as mentioned, you'll get more out of the course if you save the writing until you reach the
active stage.
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Ricey83 Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5246 days ago 12 posts - 12 votes Studies: English*, Italian
| Message 6 of 7 03 July 2012 at 10:12am | IP Logged |
I completed the 1st 4 or so passive lessons by writing everthing down and translating until I re-read the Assimil instructions and at the point I stopped writing the lessons out but I had noticed that I wasn't taking it in as well but I suppose that is to be expected.
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Antisrcen Newbie Canada Joined 4606 days ago 10 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 7 of 7 06 July 2012 at 4:21am | IP Logged |
i'm using assimil with ease for Italian also. i read the Italian sentence and the
translation over and over until i'm sure what each word means in the Italian form, then i
write the Italian out while speaking it. after that i close my eyes and try to say the
entire sentence correctly. it takes about 15-20 minutes per lesson for me, and it seems
to be working pretty well.
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