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Which Pimsleur Arabic course to choose?

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Vagabondette
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13 July 2012 at 7:13pm | IP Logged 
I have access to both the Eastern and Egyptian versions of the Pimsleur courses but I'm not sure which I should do.

In the fall I will be spending 3 weeks in Morocco, 3-4 days in Egypt, and 3 weeks in Jordan. I would like to at least learn a some of the basic spoken phrases to use while I'm there so I figured doing one of the Pimsleur courses would be a good start but I'm not sure which one is best.

I'd appreciate any suggestions on which to choose or an alternative course. I need an audio-only course as I'll be listening to it while I'm walking the Camino de Santiago.

Thanks!
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14 July 2012 at 3:08pm | IP Logged 
I'd say Eastern, since you will be spending 3 weeks in Jordan, and the Eastern course covers the Syrian/Jordanian dialect. Moroccan Arabic, from what I've read, is very different from Egyptian or Jordanian, because it is influenced by French and also has many loanwords from Berber language, so neither of the courses would help you out in this country. And your time in Egypt is not going to be so long, so learning Egyptian dialect is quite useless.
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14 July 2012 at 8:18pm | IP Logged 
Yes, I would go for Eastern Arabic, since in this case, it covers the Levantine dialect(s) (spoken in Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Jordan). Since you're spending more time there than in Egypt.

Moroccan Arabic is indeed relatively divergent. While French and Berber loan words are a key reason, one of the tougher reasons, in my experience, is that the pronunciation is more slurred, vowels are eaten, there are more consonant clusters, etc. If Moroccans spoke closer to how most Middle Easterners speak, I wouldn't be surprised if mutual comprehension increased significantly. I would still learn some basic Moroccan Arabic phrases, since you'll be there for weeks. Loecsen's share of Moroccan phrases is good for basics:

http://www.loecsen.com/travel/discover.php?lang=en&to_lang=6 2

Egyptian and Levantine (and most other Eastern/Middle Eastern dialects) have much in common with one another, though I would still opt for Levantine due to your situation. It's one of the more widely understood dialects in the Arab world as well, alongside Egyptian.
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14 July 2012 at 10:09pm | IP Logged 
Thanks to you both! I appreciate the feedback.
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Jappy58
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16 July 2012 at 5:34pm | IP Logged 
@Vagabondette: No problem, and if you ever end up being interested in Arabic as a whole, I'd be glad to recommend resources and strategies to learn the language! :) Have fun on your trip, I've visited each of those countries and enjoyed them.
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16 July 2012 at 7:36pm | IP Logged 
Pimsleur Eastern, definitely, but I'd also really try & find time to do at least the first couple chapters of a
grammar book (TY or Colloquial or Living Language). Or even the Desert Sky PDFs that others have linked
to. Pimsleur Arabic can be frustrating without context; it doesn't stand alone as well as Pimsleur for Romance
languages.


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