Takato Tetraglot Senior Member HungaryRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5053 days ago 249 posts - 276 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, EnglishB2, GermanB2, Japanese
| Message 1 of 35 11 August 2012 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
I hadn't been taught the difference between '/æ//ɛ//e/', '/ɑ//ɒ//ʌ//a/', '/ʊ//u/', '/ə//ɜ/' (interestingly enough, I was only taught how to pronounce the consonants, I tried to learn to distinguish the vowels later on, though, so I can distinguish between /æ//ɛ//e/, not that I'd know when to pronounce them), therefore, I don't even know how to pronounce the word "this". It seems like I should relearn the pronunciation of almost each English word I know. What to do?
Edited by Takato on 11 August 2012 at 10:53pm
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Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 2 of 35 11 August 2012 at 11:02pm | IP Logged |
Listen to a lot of native English, so you can imitate the speakers. If you're unsure about single words consult a dictionary with IPA.
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IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6442 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 3 of 35 12 August 2012 at 1:59am | IP Logged |
What words do you want to hear? I'll make a recording of me saying them. I can say them alone and in a sentence, so if there's a specific sentence you want to hear let me know.
Standard American accent.
Edited by IronFist on 12 August 2012 at 2:00am
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beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4627 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 4 of 35 12 August 2012 at 2:19am | IP Logged |
I've often wondered how non-natives cope with English pronunciations. It is by no means written in a phonetic fashion, the same combination of letters can produce several sounds and there are lots of words which just buck the trend entirely. Other languages have a more regular system.
Also, there are variations between English speakers themselves. As a Scotsman, the words poor and door definitely do not sound the same, yet people in some parts of southern England insist they do.
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IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6442 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 5 of 35 12 August 2012 at 3:01am | IP Logged |
beano wrote:
Also, there are variations between English speakers themselves. As a Scotsman, the words poor and door definitely do not sound the same, yet people in some parts of southern England insist they do. |
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I pronounce them the same.
Also pronounced the same as "pore" like on your skin. And "pour" as in "pour some tea."
"I'm going to pour water on my poor pores." lol.
Hey beano, how do you Scotsmen do with understanding Americans?
Scottish accents are generally considered cool in America, but sometimes if it's really thick we need subtitles.
Edited by IronFist on 12 August 2012 at 3:02am
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beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4627 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 6 of 35 12 August 2012 at 3:45am | IP Logged |
IronFist wrote:
I pronounce them the same.
Also pronounced the same as "pore" like on your skin. And "pour" as in "pour some tea."
"I'm going to pour water on my poor pores." lol.
Hey beano, how do you Scotsmen do with understanding Americans?
Scottish accents are generally considered cool in America, but sometimes if it's really thick we need subtitles. |
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I pronounce "door" like pouring tea. But I voice "poor" which a different sound, oo as in glue.
Scots people have little trouble with American accents because we are exposed to them in movies. But some of the more mumbled southern speech or perhaps a thick New York accent can be challenging, but you can tune in after a while.
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ZombieKing Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4532 days ago 247 posts - 324 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*
| Message 7 of 35 12 August 2012 at 5:52am | IP Logged |
Have you considered shadowing? If it's possible for you to get a written text and it's audio counterpart, I'm sure that with lots of practice it'll just seem natural to you. That's how it seems to be when people who do this technique talk about it.
Also, a lot of forum members here seem to have a lot of success with learning accents through lots of listening.
Maybe you could pick one accent you like and try and only focus on that when it comes to speaking practice.
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ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4716 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 8 of 35 12 August 2012 at 7:32am | IP Logged |
Hmm, do "would" and "wood" rhyme?
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