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zerrubabbel
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 Message 1 of 8
03 December 2012 at 3:47pm | IP Logged 
by 'other' languages, I mean languages that arent even a target language... for instance, I dont really care very much
right now about Russian, but thanks to exposure in the language community I was able to understand a title on
youtube and watch a video that was of interest to me... I couldnt read the whole title, but 'йо-йо' stood out and I
knew what that meant [yoyo]...

anybody else have any experiences like this?
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tarvos
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 Message 2 of 8
03 December 2012 at 4:04pm | IP Logged 
There are a ton of languages I get this in; they're pretty much all linguistically
related to something else I know.

I don't speak Portuguese but I'll still pick something up.
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Julie
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03 December 2012 at 6:01pm | IP Logged 
This thread might be interesting for you: http://how-to-learn-any-
language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32108&PN=1&TPN=5 (delete any spaces inserted by
the forum's software).

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zerrubabbel
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03 December 2012 at 8:14pm | IP Logged 
while I am facinated with being to read other languages based on ones I already have a knowledge in, I thought this
was different because I dont know russian or anything similar to russian... I was only able to read it because I picked
up little things from other learners, and general background noise on the forums :D
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03 December 2012 at 10:42pm | IP Logged 
I ended up starting to learn these languages:)
Right now the only one that qualifies as a non-target language (and one I actively dislike!) is French.
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Liv
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07 December 2012 at 4:40am | IP Logged 
Yep. I have a few people from Brazil on facebook and I find I can read most of what they write there thanks to my
Spanish.
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 Message 7 of 8
07 December 2012 at 9:53am | IP Logged 
I rarely deal with Frisian - once upon a time I remember I found a Frisian homepage, but I had a hard time understanding the content. Next time was in August 2011, where question was the number of speakers, and I found an estimate on the Frisian Wikipedia for speakers in the Netherlands (including Stadfries), and it was unexpected high: "Fan 'e likernôch 630.000 ynwenners fan 'e provinsje Fryslân kin 94% Frysk ferstean, 74% Frysk prate, 65% Frysk lêze en 17% Frysk skriuwe." OK, Dutch + a lot of y's, I could spell my way through it. And then a few days ago I read through several pages of Frisian to search for a specific grammatical construction, and lo and behold, in spite of a number of unknown words I had now no problems in getting the structure of the Frisian sentences and mostly also their meaning. As far as I know my listening time with this language amounts to about 10 seconds in my whole life (maybe plus one of profArguelles' videos, but I'm not sure), and as I mentioned I don't really search for Frisian materials, so the progress must be due to more competence in the other ingwäonic languages and nonspecific training in reading neighbouring languages.

Edited by Iversen on 07 December 2012 at 9:56am

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tarvos
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07 December 2012 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
Stadsfries is not Frisian, but Dutch, influenced by the Frisian. It's a dialect of Dutch.

For the record, I could probably learn to read Frisian, but it's in an area of the
country I have never ever been to. Strange, considering that my given name hails from
that very part of the country.

Another notable feature of Frisia is that they have established trilingual primary
schools in some places: providing immersion settings for the use of Frisian, Dutch and
English. If that type of stuff starts working...

Edited by tarvos on 07 December 2012 at 5:13pm



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