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mselver
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 Message 1 of 15
02 March 2011 at 8:20pm | IP Logged 
Hi everyone,

I am learning Japanese using Assimil Japanese with Ease.Is writing phrases of assimil to anki a good idea?

Thanks.
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jazzboy.bebop
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 Message 2 of 15
02 March 2011 at 9:13pm | IP Logged 
mselver wrote:
Hi everyone,

I am learning Japanese using Assimil Japanese with Ease.Is writing phrases of assimil to
anki a good idea?

Thanks.


I doubt it would hurt. I am going through the Assimil French and inputting the sentences
into Anki as well. I make sure to do it so it has French on the question side and then
English on the answer side to keep it passive.
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Lucky Charms
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 Message 3 of 15
03 March 2011 at 5:54am | IP Logged 
I do the same with German, but I do it after I've already finished a lesson, so that Anki
allows for future review.

There was a thread a while ago in which the OP was completely burnt out and frustrated
with Assimil, and after some questioning about his method it came out that he was
inputting every single sentence into Anki in his native language and forcing himself to
produce it in the target language. The posters in the thread urged him not to demand so
much of himself and to just follow the instructions in the Assimil booklet. This is the
reason I recommend only using Anki as a review tool. I also keep it passive during the
passive wave, or at the most I'll use the cloze feature to isolate a certain vocab item
for production.
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jazzboy.bebop
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 Message 4 of 15
03 March 2011 at 9:56am | IP Logged 
Lucky Charms wrote:
I do the same with German, but I do it after I've already
finished a lesson, so that Anki
allows for future review.

There was a thread a while ago in which the OP was completely burnt out and frustrated
with Assimil, and after some questioning about his method it came out that he was
inputting every single sentence into Anki in his native language and forcing himself to
produce it in the target language. The posters in the thread urged him not to demand so
much of himself and to just follow the instructions in the Assimil booklet. This is the
reason I recommend only using Anki as a review tool. I also keep it passive during the
passive wave, or at the most I'll use the cloze feature to isolate a certain vocab item
for production.


Ouch, it's no wonder they got burn out, defeats the purpose of having passive and
active waves.

I only input the sentences into Anki after having completed a lesson too, I should have
clarified.

For Japanese it may be an idea to make a separate deck for the kanji used in the course
but have it so you need to remember how to write them out.

So on the question side for example:

"word for 'go' with kanji? (いきます)"

Answer:

"行きます。"







Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 03 March 2011 at 9:58am

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clumsy
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 Message 5 of 15
03 March 2011 at 11:15am | IP Logged 
if you are a beginner that can be too hard for you.
Just put there some vocab or maybe grammar.
Although, if you have it in a book already...
Just read it often, review et cetera.
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kmart
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 Message 6 of 15
03 March 2011 at 11:35am | IP Logged 
I do the same with Assimil Italian - only the tricky sentences though, not everything, and as suggested by others, only passively.
Amazingly, after a few run-throughs on Anki, I start hearing those phrases everywhere - and it's instant understanding, not translation. After several years of language learning stagnation the Assimil-Anki combination is powering my studies, and my enthusiasm.
;-)
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jazzboy.bebop
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 Message 7 of 15
03 March 2011 at 11:59am | IP Logged 
clumsy wrote:
if you are a beginner that can be too hard for you.
Just put there some vocab or maybe grammar.
Although, if you have it in a book already...
Just read it often, review et cetera.


The whole point of Anki is to make reviewing and remembering easier, not more difficult
so I'm not sure what you mean.
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crafedog
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 Message 8 of 15
03 March 2011 at 1:25pm | IP Logged 
I just recently started doing this.

2 things though:

1. I do it on the active phase, not the passive phase.
2. I only write down the sentences that interest me (useful grammar, structure,
preposition etc) and not all of them (nor any vocabulary) because I'm almost certain that
this would lead to burnout quickly.


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