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| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 9 of 15 03 March 2011 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Just wondering what your reason is for only doing it from the active phase and if you mean you put details in so you need to actively come up with the target language? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| crafedog Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5810 days ago 166 posts - 337 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Korean, Tok Pisin, French | Message 10 of 15 04 March 2011 at 1:21am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think when I get to the active phase of the unit, I want to be basically finished with the unit forever (as dramatic as that sounds) or simply put, just to have taken everything of use from it by the time I see it the second time. The first time I read the unit is merely exposure. New forms/words etc. The second time is where I feel I should be at a stage where I'm past this type of unit and I only need to be briefly exposed to the forms again and pick up some of the vocabulary I might be forgetting. I think my 2nd reason is also because I've been enjoying the Assimil method (hated it when I first bought the book, but like many people who hate it I was doing it wrong) and I wanted to try and do the course as accurately as possible. As simple and intensity-free as the course is, it still takes a fair amount of dedication to get through at an even pace due to the deliberate nature of the course (i.e. as much as you'd like to, you can't just skip a few chapters/pick-and-mix). And 3rd and final reason, I think I'm a bit concerned about burn-out. Burn-out is really common on this forum. I didn't realise how common it was until a little while ago when I was reading some intense techniques being written about by some people 2-3 years ago on this forum, I started clicking their language profiles to see their progress and then discovered that they don't even study the language nowadays/never even got to an intermediate stage. Making the initial, primary steps in Assimil longer (i.e. the passive phase) seems like it could drag on after 80+ chapters hence my wish to avoid it. I put the full English sentence in for reference and eventually I'm going to go through Anki looking solely at the English sentences as a form of 'active Anki' (I always used to just look at the Target language but I think this has made my knowledge too passive). Putting in only part of the sentence is a great idea, that could really speed up your thinking speed. I honestly hadn't considered that. My only concern with doing that would be that you'd have to make sure you're still writing in key parts of the sentence that are different in your target language (Spanish: for, prepositions, was - ing etc) or you might be missing out on some key exposure to some tricky concepts/differences in your target language. Edited by crafedog on 04 March 2011 at 1:46am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 11 of 15 04 March 2011 at 1:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I see, you make some good points. I guess it is kind of a personal thing, I'm not too worried about getting too weighted down with material as items get placed further and further away for review and I make sure to review daily and it only take a few minutes, but assuming I did miss a day or two it could start to pile up and take some of the fun out of the method and make things more difficult for me. Seems your way of doing things is a good way of reviewing and somewhat streamlining things as you focus on what is more important to you. When I use future Assimil courses I think I will use your way of doing things but for French I think I'll stick with putting everything in and making an active deck later for some important grammatical points and idioms. I will be applying to do a French course in August at my college and the course will be essentially first year undergraduate level work with an assumption that you have a good foundation in French so I want to make sure I have everything properly crammed into my head by the time I start. I just hope I can convince the French tutor to take me on the course. Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 04 March 2011 at 1:49am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mselver Triglot Newbie Turkey Joined 5017 days ago 32 posts - 40 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English, FrenchB2 | Message 12 of 15 04 March 2011 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks guys I think I will just follow the "Traditional" way.Maybe I will use Anki for HARD phrases.
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| alexyeo Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 5340 days ago 5 posts - 7 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Mandarin, Spanish | Message 13 of 15 25 March 2011 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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see this: http://bit.ly/fyffpc (in German) about using Anki and Assimil together.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5373 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 14 of 15 25 March 2011 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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It's only a good idea if that's going to motivate you.
Personally, I've tried Anki several times, even bought the iPad app, but it's just not for me. It becomes a memory game and has absolutely nothing to do with using the language. Even if I could remember every card perfectly, it still doesn't mean I'll be able to use that knowledge instinctively in context, so it's pretty much useless. This workflow may help you more than Anki. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Alois M. Heptaglot Newbie Brazil Joined 5206 days ago 10 posts - 29 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, French, English, German, Italian, Dutch Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Hindi, Greek, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Arabic (classical), Swedish, Turkish | Message 15 of 15 31 March 2011 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I enter the glossary at the end of the book in a file made specifically for it (like, ~Japanese Assimil~ or ~Hindi Assimiil~) and then start practicing right away. But I only do it with the words, not the sentences. I don`t think entering sentences would make any sense, and besides, it would take a lot of time.
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