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| Mareike Senior Member Germany Joined 6222 days ago 267 posts - 323 votes  Speaks: German* Studies: English, Swedish | Message 9 of 14 17 May 2012 at 12:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've "Schwedisch ohne Mühe" published in 2003 in one book.
I bought the tome with one book and 4 Audio-CDs. The book contains 100 lessons. The texts fits to "Title: Le suédois sans peine Author: Jean-François Battail Year of first publication: 1986 " But, the book has only 604 pages plus empty sites for notes. Maybe they reduce the explanations? The text of the latest french version is complete different to my German book version. The audio is only for the first 50 chapters. If you want the audio for the last chapters you have to buy it seperatly. So you have 4 Audio-Cds for 50 chapters. If you want to buy it new, it's expensieve the tome (100€) and maybe the second audio part (88€). http://assimil.de/sprachen/schwedisch.php On the left side you'll find some examples. Edited by Mareike on 17 May 2012 at 3:43pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5345 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 10 of 14 17 May 2012 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks Mareike for confirming that the texts in Schwedisch ohne Mühe correspond to those in Le suédois sans peine and that the audio is the same.
Who knows? Maybe they just printed the book with very small fonts, or maybe they just cut out some explanations that are useful to Francophones but pointless to speakers of another Germanic language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kronos Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5259 days ago 186 posts - 452 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 11 of 14 17 May 2012 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Emme is correct: the appendices in both of the volumes are the same (I didn't take this into account -- my fault), which means the unique content runs up to about 730 pages only. This is still considerably more than the 604 or 640 pages of the new book.
On the Assimil site Mareike linked to there is a sample page covering the first three lessons. I tried to compare them with those of the old edition (which I have a copy of). These are the main differences: - The texts are unchanged (just the line count is different) - The new annotations are based on the old ones, but revised and slightly expanded - The exercises are unchanged - Fill-in-the-blanks: an additional one in Lesson 1, those in L2 remain the same; L3 is obviously cut off at page 12 in the sample - The illustrations are the same - New layout, but not dramatically different The strange thing is that in the old edition Lessons 1-3 ran for exactly 10 pages, while in the new one the page count seems to be somewhere between 12 and 13 pages. Strange, because if this was the case with all the lessons, the lessons part alone would fill at least 700 pages, grammatical appendix etc. not even considered. So there remains a 'gap' of about 150 pages (at least), which I do not know the nature of. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ikinaridango Triglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6123 days ago 61 posts - 80 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, Italian Studies: German, Polish | Message 12 of 14 23 May 2012 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've got the single-volume German-language edition too, and I think that what may, at
least in part, account for its smaller number of pages is the absence of the wordlist/dictionary at the end, which the French edition seems to have. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kronos Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5259 days ago 186 posts - 452 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 13 of 14 23 May 2012 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes, I did take this into account in my calculation. The old edition had a wordlist of about 110 pages, duplicated in Vol. 2. Even then there is still a 'gap' of more than a hundred 'missing' pages remaining which I cannot account for. However, it seems now that the substance of the old course and the later (German) one-volume edition is basically the same, at least not watered down. You also get to learn about 4,000 words with both. Too bad they changed that now with the new one. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SaYwHt2 Triglot Newbie Belgium Joined 5596 days ago 9 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English, German, French Studies: Italian, Russian, Dutch, Swedish, Croatian, Slovenian | Message 14 of 14 12 June 2012 at 1:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just wanted to thank everyone involved in this thread. I have been interested in learning Swedish for a long
time and decided to order the Assimil Schwedisch ohne Mühe course last week. I ordered the book and the two cd packs separately from Amazon UK and am very pleased with what I see before me! First of all, the book is a wonderful hardcover edition, which is a nice change from the flimsy new Assimil editions (You know, the really new ones that don't have the nice red bookmark string!). Just flipping through it, even if they've combined the previous two volumes into one, I can tell that this course is packed with a ton of vocabulary and certainly seems to be more comprehensive than my 1980s editions of Assimil Italian or German with Ease. It seems to be more along the lines of German without Toil and the older editions in terms of content. I have to agree with the general consensus that the new Assimil books, while still very effective, seem to lack that "special something" of the pre-2000s editions. Maybe its a combination of getting rid of the old binding and the slower pace in the new courses. Anyway, my plan is to use the Assimil book and FSI Swedish, with the goal of hopefully achieving B1 at least. Maybe it would be possible to reach B2 though with this course as well I think. Can't wait to get started and thank you again for helping me pick the right course! 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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