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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5458 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 9 of 15 06 May 2012 at 11:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Dialects are spoken in many formal situations. However, when it comes to written communication, you are always
expected to write in standard Norwegian (Bokmål or Nynorsk) in formal letters, memos, e-mails etc. While it is OK to write in dialect on your Facebook profile or in a private e-mail to a friend, you would never do it when you write a company e-mail or letter. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5339 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 10 of 15 07 May 2012 at 12:02am | IP Logged | |||||
Quite. I see my little cousin using her Flekkefjord dialect on Facebook, and I have seen dialects used in songs or poems, but never in formal letters. Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 07 May 2012 at 12:03am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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Okay, I see. This use of dialect is more similar to German than I thought. People will sometimes use their dialects on Facebook and in songs or poems as well.
But Norwegians can choose between Nynorsk and Bokmål and, in Bokmål, whether to use the feminine or not. That's quite interesting! Nevertheless, I don't want to hijack this thread any longer. So, thank you for your answers! I think I'll read a bit about Norwegian on Wikipedia now... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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Yes, positive. I've heard about en/ett test, but I couldn't even find en paket in SAOL. There are other words though that could be used with both en/ett, like paraply (umbrella). There are even words that change the meaning, like en nöt means a nut, but ett nöt is a cattle, but these forms are really rare. I would think if you'd ask 100 Swedes, 95 of them would say "ett paraply" because it just feels right. I'll contribute more to this tomorrow when I'm on my computer instead, but I'm really glad this thread got all these posts in such a short time. Great contributions! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6914 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 15 07 May 2012 at 10:04am | IP Logged | |||||
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I've never heard "en paket" either, and I wonder about this en/ett paraply which together with apelsin (orange) is said to have two genders - but I have yet to hear anyone say "en paraply" or "ett apelsin".
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| Pisces Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4627 days ago 143 posts - 284 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish*, French, SwedishC1, Esperanto Studies: German, Spanish, Russian | Message 14 of 15 07 May 2012 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In sv.wikipedia.org it claims apelsin "har t-genus i stora delar av södra Sverge (ett apelsin, apelsinet)". (is neuter in large parts of southern Sweden).
"En paket" appears to be Skånska (as well). www.sprakmakargatan.se/?p=2779 Also - http://sv.wiktionary.org/wiki/Diskussion:paket Edited by Pisces on 07 May 2012 at 12:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| daniboy Diglot Newbie Mexico Joined 4533 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Swedish, Romanian | Message 15 of 15 15 July 2012 at 2:55am | IP Logged | |||||
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your question is really interesting !
You´ll think that I am kidding but believe me that since i started to learn swedish I haven´t had any difficult in order to memorize which noun is EN and which is ETT Actually at first it was more difficult the fact of the plurals cause they are not as easy as for example in my native language (spanish) in which you just add "s" or "es" in a more logical way. I guess that, If for example, If swedish would hve 3 genders as in German maybe in my case it would be more difficult...but actually I was trying to learn nynorsk which has 3 genders and wasn´t difficul to remember. Edited by daniboy on 15 July 2012 at 2:55am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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