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 Message 17 of 40
22 July 2012 at 7:04pm | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
Josquin wrote:

I second that part on Icelandic. It's nearly impossible to understand people at normal
speed! The same could be said about Faroese, I think. [/URL]

That can be said about any language if you do not know it well enough or do not have
enough experience.

What I wanted to say was that the Faroese I listened to via the internet seemed to be spoken at an equal speed as Icelandic. I was not complaining about my lacking ability to understand it - which is of course quite natural, given the fact that I have never really studied Faroese.

Anyway, spoken Icelandic sounds absurdly fast even after a year of active study - an experience I haven't had with other languages. So, I feel qualified to report my experiences here, the more as there are other people who've had the same experience. For further reference, have a look at the "Slurred Languages" thread, which I unfortunately cannot find at the moment, so there is no link.

EDIT: Found it! Slurred Languages vs Clear Languages

Edited by Josquin on 22 July 2012 at 7:09pm

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 Message 18 of 40
22 July 2012 at 7:24pm | IP Logged 
Once again: how much listening have you done?

Right now I'm watching football in Danish and there seems to be some improvement, did it need to grow in my head or what?
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 Message 19 of 40
22 July 2012 at 7:40pm | IP Logged 
I sometimes do not understand English, despite the fact that I learned it for many years.

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 Message 20 of 40
22 July 2012 at 7:41pm | IP Logged 
Josquin wrote:
Марк wrote:
Josquin wrote:

I second that part on Icelandic. It's nearly impossible to understand people at normal
speed! The same could be said about Faroese, I think. [/URL]

That can be said about any language if you do not know it well enough or do not have
enough experience.

What I wanted to say was that the Faroese I listened to via the internet seemed to be
spoken at an equal speed as Icelandic. I was not complaining about my lacking ability
to understand it - which is of course quite natural, given the fact that I have never
really studied Faroese.

Anyway, spoken Icelandic sounds absurdly fast even after a year of active study - an
experience I haven't had with other languages. So, I feel qualified to report my
experiences here, the more as there are other people who've had the same experience.
For further reference, have a look at the "Slurred Languages" thread, which I
unfortunately cannot find at the moment, so there is no link.

EDIT: Found it! TID=32383&PN=1">Slurred Languages vs Clear Languages

What languages do you mean?
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Josquin
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 Message 21 of 40
22 July 2012 at 8:08pm | IP Logged 
Well, now that the discussion has come so far, I am happy to tell you that I sometimes don't even understand German, my mother tongue! :)

That being said, I've done enough listening in Icelandic to be able to tell whether the language is pronounced clear or slurred and whether it is spoken fast or slow. In the beginning, I even had problems to follow the recordings of my language course! Well, I certainly have made progress, but it's often still hard to figure out what people are saying. It's not a problem of not knowing the words but of recognizing them, as Icelandic has a lot of sandhi and - I am repeating myself - is simply spoken very fast.

I've made enough experiences with other languages to be able to tell that there's something different in Icelandic. Of course, understanding spoken speech is always hard in the beginning, but in Icelandic it's just harder. And of course, more listening practice would help, but I just need more practice in Icelandic than in other languages. And if you don't believe me, I invite you to take a look at Icelandic yourself!

@ Марк: Sorry, I don't understand what you're asking for. I just referred to the thread Slurred Languages vs Clear Languages, as there are obviously several languages that are famous for being hard to understand (e.g. Danish and Korean).
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 Message 22 of 40
22 July 2012 at 8:23pm | IP Logged 
I'll repeat myself too: there's nothing inherently hard about listening comprehension. Most learners just don't do enough listening. Any language that you've not heard enough will sound "too fast".
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 Message 23 of 40
22 July 2012 at 8:34pm | IP Logged 
Can we agree to disagree?
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 Message 24 of 40
22 July 2012 at 8:34pm | IP Logged 
Josquin wrote:
Well, now that the discussion has come so far, I am happy to tell you
that I sometimes don't even understand German, my mother tongue! :)

That being said, I've done enough listening in Icelandic to be able to tell whether the
language is pronounced clear or slurred and whether it is spoken fast or slow. In the
beginning, I even had problems to follow the recordings of my language course! Well, I
certainly have made progress, but it's often still hard to figure out what people are
saying. It's not a problem of not knowing the words but of recognizing them, as
Icelandic has a lot of sandhi and - I am repeating myself - is simply spoken very fast.

I've made enough experiences with other languages to be able to tell that there's
something different in Icelandic. Of course, understanding spoken speech is always hard
in the beginning, but in Icelandic it's just harder. And of course, more listening
practice would help, but I just need more practice in Icelandic than in other
languages. And if you don't believe me, I invite you to take a look at Icelandic
yourself!

@ Марк: Sorry, I don't understand what you're asking for. I just referred to the thread
Slurred Languages vs Clear Languages, as there are obviously several languages
that are famous for being hard to understand (e.g. Danish and Korean).

With what languages did you compare Icelandic? Latin, Ancient Greek are dead; Dutch is
too close to German, thus irrelevant here; English you probably learned for a long
time. What about Russian, for example? Is it clear or slurred?

Edited by Марк on 22 July 2012 at 8:35pm



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