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| vientito Senior Member Canada Joined 6343 days ago 212 posts - 281 votes  | Message 17 of 23 13 August 2012 at 2:39am | IP Logged | |||||
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Recently i have noticed more teenagers coming onboard to study korean. It must be due to the attraction of kpop culture overseas. Well, that's a good thing, because to tackle a challenging beast like that you need all the love and passion to sustain your efforts.
Liaison in french was my enemy no.1 throughout my previous decade with it. When I started on korean, I have since discovered this enemy no.1 in french is nowhere close in degree of ferocity to a similar phenomenon in korean. However, it does help me to deal with korean since I am already familiar with some basic techniques. The extra complexity comes from rules on sound change. Certain words with some class of consonants will change their auditory nature depending who they pair with their next neighbours, so much so that your auditory register will have to be tuned to accomodate possible sound change of a word. It is still the same word we are talking about but it will have an evil twin. You could have thought this evil twin is an entirely different word as well. The merging effect creates more problem for korean than Spanish or french because word units for the latters in most cases are composed of several syllables whereas word units in korean has only 1 single syllable. When a word that begins with vowel "disappears" from a radar screen it is obviously more serious that losing a syllable of a word in french or Spanish. You need context to deal with this mess - a top-down approach combined with an appreciation of all the basic mechanism. To tell you the truth I am getting better but every now and then I am still faced with globs that defy my attempt of unravelling. One could listen to it many times and still draw a blank. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6442 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 18 of 23 13 August 2012 at 2:56am | IP Logged | |||||
I've heard people say that kanji does kind of make up for the lack of spaces, but that's not something I've experienced for myself since I never got very far with kanji. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Minya Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4907 days ago 22 posts - 38 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 19 of 23 13 August 2012 at 3:27am | IP Logged | |||||
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Honestly, Japanese isn't hard to read to me at all. Just memorizing all the freaking kanjis are.
And thanks guys for the informative posts about Korean. I'm going to look at the logs now to get a better feel for it. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Anno Triglot Newbie Israel acquiringkorean.word Joined 5634 days ago 29 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English, Korean, Dutch Studies: Turkish, Mongolian, Modern Hebrew, French | Message 20 of 23 13 August 2012 at 9:34am | IP Logged | |||||
Hi, I have no idea how long it will take you but it won't be too hard. Just keep at it! The TTMIK podcasts are all amazing. If I were you I'd use Anki as well -- adding sentences for all the words and grammar you want to learn. If you can adding audio would be an incredible help as well. And listen to loads of songs and watch loads of movies. 화이팅! -- Hebrew Learning Blog Korean Learning Blog "The key to success is making a million mistakes. . now let's make as many as fast as we can!" Edited by Anno on 13 August 2012 at 9:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Anno Triglot Newbie Israel acquiringkorean.word Joined 5634 days ago 29 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English, Korean, Dutch Studies: Turkish, Mongolian, Modern Hebrew, French | Message 21 of 23 13 August 2012 at 9:39am | IP Logged | |||||
You can do it. There are some rather tricky parts but it is not that hard. -- Hebrew Learning Blog Korean Learning Blog "The key to success is making a million mistakes. . now let's make as many as fast as we can!" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| stevesayskanpai Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4495 days ago 16 posts - 16 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Italian | Message 22 of 23 13 August 2012 at 10:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi all,
Thanks for your info and words of encouragement. Having both Japanese language and having lived in Korea already feel like big benefits when embarking upon Korean. I am familiar with the sounds, the broad similarities in grammar, and some words seem to be the same too (e.g. kaban = bag). I'll let you know how I get on, but feeling enthused and motivated at the moment - which is the key to progressing! Also, the Talk to me in Korean podcasts are really great, and it's easy to copy and paste the new vocab straight into Anki. I plan on going through these podcasts until Christmas, and then hopefully having a solid base to move onto specific TOPIK prep. Out of interest, any idea how the TTMIK podcasts and TOPIK level correspond? (there are seven levels of TTMIK podcasts - would I need to listen to all of these to get to TOPIK beginner level approximately?) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6442 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 23 of 23 14 August 2012 at 12:46am | IP Logged | |||||
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I just downloaded something called "TOPIK One" for Android. It's free. It gives you example questions like what you'll see on the TOPIK. No idea how accurate it is, but it's a fun little app. Edited by IronFist on 14 August 2012 at 12:47am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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