Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6760 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 49 of 55 10 December 2009 at 1:19pm | IP Logged |
The whole point of iTunes and the iPod is that the songs are kept in database instead of dumb folders, so you can
create unlimited playlists as well as smart playlists based on file-independent metadata, without needing more than
one copy of each song or audio track. To do that with a drag-and-drop player you'd have to have a separate copy
of the song for every playlist, and smart playlists would be impossible period.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5661 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 50 of 55 10 December 2009 at 4:29pm | IP Logged |
Captain Haddock wrote:
To do that with a drag-and-drop player you'd have to have a separate copy of the song for every playlist, and smart playlists would be impossible period. |
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Sorry to disagree - but that is not correct. Both my sony and rockbox support playlists, and these do not require separate copies of songs for every playlist. A playlist is simply a .m3u textfile containing pointers to actual files rather than multiple copies of the files themselves. These can be created using software on your PC and (in the case of the sony devices) even on the device itself.
Having said that, I don't use playlists at all for language learning - so iTunes is just an inconvenience that I do not need - and drag and drop is much simpler and more efficient.
Edited by Splog on 10 December 2009 at 4:34pm
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6026 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 51 of 55 10 December 2009 at 8:36pm | IP Logged |
I agree, iTunes can be very cumbersome. Also, this:
Splog wrote:
All the new Sony mp3 players now have drag and drop. I have one, and it really is just a case of plugging it in and using it like a folder on your computer.
In addition, I replaced the software on my iPod with a freeware program called RockBox which replaces the apple operating system on the iPod itself (not on your computer) so you can do drag and drop too (and no longer need to use iTunes or anything like it). |
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...is not possible with iPod Touch unless you jailbreak it; For other iPod models there is an option to access the file system, which is turned off by default; You can turn it on from iTunes.
Apple loves to control and restrict things, sometimes for totally inexplicable reasons, but in spite of this the iPods are still very useful gadgets.
Edited by Sennin on 18 December 2009 at 4:24pm
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6431 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 52 of 55 12 December 2009 at 2:52am | IP Logged |
I use a sansa with rockbox; I'm pretty happy with it, generally. I use it as a USB mass storage device under Linux (so it does support drag and drop).
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Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5182 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)
| Message 53 of 55 06 February 2011 at 10:19am | IP Logged |
I have an old i-River iFP-890. It is awesome!:
You can voice record with its internal mike or attach an external mike. You can choose recording frequency /level.
You can also record line-in (e.g. for streaming internet radio), which I think is rare these days.
It's got a pretty decent FM radio - ideal if you are on holiday in your chosen country.
It's very rugged unlike iPods/iPhones, and has no problem if you drop it.
It's powered by 1 AA battery, so you don't have to take a charger with you. It has a good battery life.
You can playback at different speeds.
You can have ogg files as well as mp3 files on it.
Downside - just 256MB!! Though there's a 500MB version too.
If you can find it e.g. on Ebay, I think it is perfect for language learners.
Edited by Andrew C on 06 February 2011 at 11:00am
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Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5038 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 54 of 55 20 February 2011 at 8:12pm | IP Logged |
I use iPod Nano.
Small; light; multi-touch; made of aluminum; built-in clip; easy to use; 36 hours
battery; 16Gb.
Edited by Abdalan on 20 February 2011 at 8:13pm
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habadzi Super Polyglot Senior Member Greece Joined 5566 days ago 70 posts - 106 votes Speaks: Greek*, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, Hindi, French, German, Italian, Ancient Greek, Modern Hebrew, Arabic (classical), Indonesian, Bengali, Albanian, Nepali
| Message 55 of 55 21 February 2011 at 11:59am | IP Logged |
Like the older i-rivers and even better is the Transcend MP-860. It has line in, A-B, a slow-down function (only for mp3 format) and expandable memory. It's sold on amazon and on the Transcend site itself. about $70. More 'advanced' models may have some of these functions missing, so watch out.
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