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| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 33 of 40 26 February 2011 at 11:23pm | IP Logged | ||
The thing is though, these hyperpolyglots don't claim to be fully fluent in all their languages. Prof. Arguelles says he is only at what would be considered a good fluent level in ten or eleven of his languages. The rest are ones that he can read and understand to different extents rather than properly speak. I also read a bit about Stu Jay and he rates his Norwegian as one of his worst languages and classes it as "shockingly elementary", though his Bahasa Indonesian as "very fluent", though it seems you disagree with him somewhat on that. ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| polyglHot Pentaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5058 days ago 173 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, German, Spanish, Indonesian Studies: Russian | Message 34 of 40 27 February 2011 at 12:38am | IP Logged | ||
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I mean his Javanese was horrible as he had almost 0 vocabulary.
So even Arguilles is only a "good fluent" in 10=11 languages? Then how many has he truly mastered in both writing and speaking like a native? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 35 of 40 27 February 2011 at 1:11am | IP Logged | ||
Ah right, he stated his Javanese as something he had to "dust the cobwebs off", guess he hasn't really bothered with it in a while but who knows how far he initially took it? Not really sure about Arguelles' best languages or if any are near native. I remember reading his main reason for learning languages was for the ability to read what he considered the great books in those languages, rather than to achieve full written and spoken fluency in as many languages as possible. He has a list of an estimate of his reading abilities across different languages here. Interestingly though, there are some languages he can read better than some languages he can speak. Apparently his spoken Korean is very advanced as he did spend quite a bit of time in Korea yet it is fairly low down on the list of languages he reads best. I remember seeing his video about bokmål and his pronunciation needed a fair bit of work but he rates his reading ability highly. The accent he had whilst reading was suggestive of what might be thought of as a stereotypical anglophone imitation of a Swedish accent. Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 27 February 2011 at 1:12am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| polyglHot Pentaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5058 days ago 173 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, German, Spanish, Indonesian Studies: Russian | Message 36 of 40 27 February 2011 at 2:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Why would he use a Swedish accent for Bokmaal?
I don't care about reading abilities. If reading a language is equal to speaking a language I should say that I can speak Dutch, French, Romanian and Portuguese, because they are Germanic and Romance languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 37 of 40 27 February 2011 at 2:36am | IP Logged | ||
Have a listen and see what you think of his accent when reading bokmål. You will need to fast forward to around 7:20 or so. His intonation seems to suggest the stereotypical imitation of a Swedish accent by anglophones. Very "bouncy", but not much like actual Swedish accents I have heard, like from watching TV4 when I'm in Norway. He certainly spends a lot of time on his reading and learning. His video on his daily linguistic workout is a bit scary. Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 27 February 2011 at 3:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6901 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 38 of 40 27 February 2011 at 2:46am | IP Logged | ||
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It isn't super-Swedish, either. His accents in the Scandinavian languages (at least Swedish and the two Norwegian varieties) sound pretty much alike ("Scandinavian"?). That goes for Stujay as well.
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| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 39 of 40 27 February 2011 at 2:51am | IP Logged | ||
It is more the typical anglophone imitation rather than true Swedish sounding. I'm thinking the Muppets Swedish Chef style, only applied to actual speech. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6667 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 40 of 40 27 February 2011 at 9:34am | IP Logged | ||
I am not prof Argüelles, but I do NOT speak any language at this high level. I include Spanish and Catala. Therefore, I speak ZERO languages. Edited by slucido on 27 February 2011 at 9:34am 5 persons have voted this message useful |
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