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RogerK
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 Message 1 of 12
05 March 2011 at 9:06am | IP Logged 
This has been mentioned in another thread but I would to have a topic dedicated solely to this question and I would like to read people's opinions on whether we can learn a language by ear alone. I think we can. What do you think?
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Splog
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05 March 2011 at 9:17am | IP Logged 
What do you mean when you say "by ear alone"?
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aabram
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 Message 3 of 12
05 March 2011 at 1:00pm | IP Logged 
Well, before mister Gutenberg came -- bless his soul -- and gave the world his ingenious
invention it's pretty much the way 99,99% of the people did it. In illiterate parts of
the world it's still the only way.
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RogerK
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 Message 4 of 12
05 March 2011 at 1:07pm | IP Logged 
Splog wrote:
What do you mean when you say "by ear alone"?


Without reading.
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schoenewaelder
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05 March 2011 at 2:26pm | IP Logged 
Michel Thomas, Pilmsleur, and others use anly audio. Or are you not allowed to use your own language at all?

I'm just starting an experiment (or training exercise) trying to do an Assimil course without reading the target dialogue (but still reading the L1) to see how far I can get, but I'm not very optimistic. And I keep accidentally glancing at the left page, but not too much.


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tractor
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05 March 2011 at 3:14pm | IP Logged 
schoenewaelder wrote:
I'm just starting an experiment (or training exercise) trying to do an Assimil course
without reading the target dialogue (but still reading the L1) to see how far I can get, but I'm not very
optimistic.

Why do you do that? What are you trying to achieve? Better listening comprehension?
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schoenewaelder
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05 March 2011 at 3:37pm | IP Logged 
tractor wrote:
Why do you do that? What are you trying to achieve? Better listening comprehension?

Yes. My listening comprehension needs all the help it can get.

I'm also just interested to see if it is possible, and whether there might be some benefits in breaking the link between the language and the page. Perhaps some of the positive experiences I have had with Pimsleur and MT are not just due to the course, but simply because I'm not "burdened" by the written language.

To be honest it sort of evolved as an accident. I was transcribing the dialogue in Course I was studying, then I thought it would good practice to do the same in a language I wasn't learning and just record it phonetically, and then I thought I ought to see if I could recognise any of the sounds that cropped up again, then I thought I may as well compare it with the word for word translation.
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jdmoncada
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 Message 8 of 12
05 March 2011 at 5:30pm | IP Logged 
We all learn our first languages without being able to read them, so yes, it is possible.

I know with my Japanese, I would likely be happy if I could speak and listen and not worry with reading or writing. When Is tarted studying that, it was all audio, and I was really happy with that. In a strange way, I felt I had made a lot of unfettered progress because I could just use it. Of course, I have only been learning Japanese for 2 months, and at this stage all progress feels profound.


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