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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes  Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 1 of 7 19 March 2011 at 8:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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I recently found a forum dedicated to learning Anishinaabemowin and have become sort of fascinated with the language. Truthfully, I became interested when I heard a weekly program in the language broadcast from an NPR affilate station located on a nearby Indian reserveration.
Anyway, in the forum someone painstakingly transcribed the entire 30 lesson Pimsleur course and provided grammar notes. It's very useful and informative. I've decided to try to follow the written notes as a course and see how far I get, albeit on a very relaxed schedule. I wonder how many Anishinaabemowin resources there actually are for learning the language outside of a reservation setting. The Pimsleur course seems to be a good course (and gets high marks from reviewers), but I wonder what else is out there. Particularly something that would take a learner beyond Pimsleur level. Most everything I've come across is very elementary. Any ideas? R. == Edited by hrhenry on 19 March 2011 at 8:13pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 2 of 7 19 March 2011 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I actually took an Anishinaabe class at the University of Manitoba, but it was purely
linguistic and didn't aim at teaching people how to speak. There was a manual, but it too was very technical. Don't know if they still offer it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 3 of 7 19 March 2011 at 10:25pm | IP Logged | ||
I found a website from the University of Wisconsin/Eau Claire that has archived all of their Anishinaabe classes as video. I sat through one and it was incredibly boring. Basically two cameras, one facing the students (there were about 25 or so) and the other facing the teacher. I'm slowly gathering links as I find them, but it's been somewhat frustrating. I will find a link that promises to be interesting and of use, only to end up at a "404 not Found" page. Most of what I am finding is really poorly designed websites that are difficult to navigate or find information, so I'm going to try and categorize/rewrite for myself anything I find useful. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 4 of 7 20 March 2011 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm not sure if anyone has posted this link before for Anishinaabemowin - http://weshki.atwebpages.com/index.html - I did a search here and came up with nothing, so I'm posting it.
It's one of the few, rather complete language-related sites I've found. R. == 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7145 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 5 of 7 20 March 2011 at 8:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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hrhenry, I don't know how helpful it might be with the "404" links you've run into, but you just might be able to find at least some of the old materials by plugging the URLs into the "Wayback Machine" at the Internet Archive site:
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 6 of 7 20 March 2011 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks. I had already gone down that path when I hit a few 404s. Most of what I found were the equivalent of a one page cheatsheet/phrase pages (usually a busy Geocities type page, at that). The weshki link I provided above is BY FAR the best link I've found so far. While quite good, it surprises me that that's the best I've found. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brithans Bilingual Diglot Newbie Canada technocraticparty.ca Joined 4543 days ago 2 posts - 5 votes Speaks: French*, English* Studies: Spanish, Ojibwe | Message 7 of 7 21 June 2012 at 10:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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Since I'm currently studying Ojibwe, I"ll tell you which resources I'm using:
There are three textbooks by Tom Beardy, called "Introductory/Intermediate/Advanced Ojibwe". They are decent textbooks, written in the Severn Ojibwe dialect. It comes with CDs so you can hear the language as well. I took a course at the University of Toronto, which was quite good. Most reserves seem to have a cultural office, which includes not only art, but a few language acquisition tools. They're usualy quite expensive though and not particularly informative. There is an online book called "Kikinowaawiiyemon" which is the "circle teaching" method developed at the university of Toronto. It can be found here http://odeamik.webfactional.com/public/kikinowaawiiyemon-201 0.pdf This book is quite intersting because it purposefully blends several of the dialects together, so that you get used to them all somewhat. I'm not sure if you know this, but native speakers can switch dialects from one to the other no problem, depending on where they are and to whom they're speaking. I enjoy this book as a complement to my Beardy text because it approaches the same material in a very different order. It also focuses on preverbs and prenouns, which are essential for intermediate conversation, yet completely lacking in the introductory Beardy text. There are also several rather disparate websites with simple workd lists and dictionaries: http://www.nativetech.org/shinob/ojibwelanguage.html http://www.kwayaciiwin.com/sites/default/files/Anishinaabe- Ikidowinan%20English%20to%20Ojibwe%20Dictionary.pdf http://www.kwayaciiwin.com/dictionary/s?page=24 Patricia Ningewance has a book called "talking gookom's language", but I've never used it and thus can't comment on it. Freelang has a decent dictionary, but again, be aware of two things when using any Ojibwe dictionary: 1. There are many dialects each with many ways of communicating the same thing. Knowing one way to say something won't be enough. If you want to be resourceful, you should also look up Chippewa, Algonquin, Odawa, Salteaux 2. Most don't specificy the verb type (by this I mean, animate intrasitive, transitive inanimate, etc) so you may accidentally use the verb on the wrong subjects. Anyways, I hope this helps! Happy Ojibwe-learning! 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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