LaughingChimp Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4700 days ago 346 posts - 594 votes Speaks: Czech*
| Message 17 of 49 30 April 2012 at 12:33am | IP Logged |
COF wrote:
However, as far as I'm aware there are almost zero resources available for Quebec French. Almost all French materials teach Standard French with a Parisian accent as if its the only standard worth knowing and all the other varities are inferior and must be stamped out. |
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It's not just Quebec French, there are almost zero materials for any spoken variant. Almost all materials teach just Standard French, many even try to hide the fact it's not French as it's actually spoken, or even lie about it and claim that they teach modern colloquial French when it's clearly not true. I really don't understand this attitude.
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csjc Tetraglot Newbie IcelandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5601 days ago 20 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Icelandic, Modern Hebrew, Dutch Studies: Norwegian, French, Japanese
| Message 18 of 49 30 April 2012 at 2:07am | IP Logged |
I'd definitely be willing to send a donation your way for that book, really nicely done.
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microsnout TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Canada microsnout.wordpress Joined 5472 days ago 277 posts - 553 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 19 of 49 30 April 2012 at 3:11am | IP Logged |
As Arekkusu has said, the Assimil book "Le québécois de poche" is not very good but it is far from the only choice.
Some others are:
"Le Parler québécois - Pour les Nuls"
Marie-Pierre Gazaille and Marie-Lou Guévin
"LE QUÉBÉCOIS - POUR MIEUX VOYAGER"
ULYSSE Guide
The above two seem better than your average phrase books because they are targeted at a francophone reader.
"Parlure et Parlotte québécoises - ILLUSTRÉES"
C'est écrit pour du monde comme vous autres qui comprenez E rien à notre parlure !
Brigitte Ostiguy and Serge Gaboury
This one (above) is full of humorous illustrations, a great gift for a French student.
"Savoureuses Expressions Québécoises"
Marcel Béliveau and Sylvie Granger
The following four are dictionary format and I have not found them very useful so far.
"DICTIONNAIRE QUÉBÉCOIS instantané"
Benoît Melançon
"Petit guide du Parler Québécois"
Mario Bélanger
"Dictionnaire de la langue québécoise"
Léandre Bergeron
"Le petit dictionnaire des québécismes"
François D'Apollonia
"French Fun - the Real Spoken Language of Québec"
Steve Timmins
This last one is the only one with an English base for explanations and written by an anglophone. Its funny and
useful.
Other than books there is the blog (already mentioned) http://offqc.com and TV series. There is only one
series that I know of that has complete and accurate French sub-titles on the DVDs: "C.A. - Conseil
d'Administration". The language in this series is highly colloquial, its like Sex in the City in Montréal.
Anything you don't understand can usually be resolved by googling it - but not always.
Finally there is::
TUFS
from Japan which has some weaknesses as Arekkusu has pointed out but unlike all the books, it does contain
audio lessons.
Edited by microsnout on 30 April 2012 at 3:29am
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embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4611 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek
| Message 20 of 49 01 May 2012 at 9:12pm | IP Logged |
It would be good for those of us who are more likely to speak French with Canadians than
with French people to have Canadian/Quebec French materials.
Wouldn't it be better to learn patate rather than pomme de terre right from the beginning
if your chances of going to France are slim?
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 21 of 49 01 May 2012 at 9:17pm | IP Logged |
embici wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to learn patate rather than pomme de terre right from the beginning if your chances of going to France are slim?
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I agree, but the biggest obstacle to comprehension, in my opinion, is rather the grammatical differences that come up in everyday spoken language.
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Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5101 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German
| Message 22 of 49 01 May 2012 at 11:36pm | IP Logged |
I suspect that there might be a lack of demand for it. France is still the number one destination for vacations, isn't it? How often do you hear people say "Oh I'd just love to go to Quebec?"
I must confess that I am terribly biased. I love the Parisian accent and every time I look on the back of a dvd and see "dubbed in Quebec" I'm a little disappointed.
I know I've seen a dictionary for Quebec French at my local library, though if that's worth anything.
Edit: Speaking of DVD's, if someone really wants to study Quebecois (?) French, they can find a pleathora of samples in DVDs.
Edited by Darklight1216 on 01 May 2012 at 11:38pm
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microsnout TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Canada microsnout.wordpress Joined 5472 days ago 277 posts - 553 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 23 of 49 02 May 2012 at 1:14am | IP Logged |
Darklight1216 wrote:
France is still the number one destination for vacations, isn't it? |
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Apparently not, most sources claim Orlando,Florida is - irreality rules. For Americans the number one destination
appears to be Mexico unless you are a senior citizen in which case, according to the AARP, it is Portland,Maine
(which is pretty close to Quebec).
Darklight1216 wrote:
How often do you hear people say "Oh I'd just love to go to Quebec?" |
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According to Lonely Planet Guides
"Nine million tourists come to Québec City each year and it's regularly voted one of the top 10 tourist locations
by everyone from Condé Nast to National Geographic Traveler Magazine."
Plus these women from France.
Darklight1216 wrote:
Speaking of DVD's, if someone really wants to study Quebecois (?) French, they can find a
pleathora of samples in DVDs. |
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No you can't study Québec French with dubbed English movies, there may be a light accent but they are essentially
standard French.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 24 of 49 02 May 2012 at 1:25am | IP Logged |
Microsnout knows his stuff.
Edited by Arekkusu on 02 May 2012 at 12:37pm
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