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| zerrubabbel Senior Member United States Joined 4601 days ago 232 posts - 287 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Mandarin | Message 10 of 13 09 May 2012 at 6:57pm | IP Logged |
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I would just like to say, this seems to be working fine for me, but covering the reviews
is a must... also, it is quite time consuming and can be mentally tiring, so for now on, I will continue with one lesson, and fill in extra time with text studies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4666 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 13 09 May 2012 at 11:47pm | IP Logged |
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I've got into a rhythm now where I cover one lesson twice on the commute to work and
the next lesson (again twice) on the commute back. If I happen to get time during the day I'll do one of those lessons again. Currently I'm not pausing the audio and I'll allow myself to move on to the next lesson if I feel I've done well enough on the current one. So far it seems to be working. When I finish I'm planning on going over the whole course again. This time I'll set myself some sort of objective goal for each lesson (perhaps 80% of responses without allowing any pauses, or 95% but allowing pauses or something similar). If I fail a lesson, I'll actively review the script ready for the next day. That's assuming I don't find some other audio to fill the commute though. I've never worried about SRS too much. I use it and I believe in it (the results I'm seeing on Memrise, for example, have convinced me of that) but I don't believe that interfering with it is harmful. Repeating early may be inefficient (but there's not much else I can do on the commute). Not repeating sufficiently/properly (e.g. by doing lesson N+1 too soon after lesson N) may mean I've not derived as much benefit as I could, but compared to not listening to any lesson at all, I don't see how I can be worse off. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4910 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 12 of 13 11 May 2012 at 1:23pm | IP Logged |
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Personally, I would rather know the material better than finish it quickly. It seems to me that if I finish a Pimsleur course in 30 days, I will have a better recall of the material later than if I finished it in 15 days (even if I spend the same amount of hours either way). If you do all 3 levels in 3-4 months this way, that's pretty quick! To get to the ability I want, it will take me years anyway, so what's the rush to get through Pimsleur faster than recommended?
Currently, I'm listening to a single lesson 3 times a day (1.5 times each direction of my commute), and completing about 4 lessons a week (some days I listen to Assimil or an audiobook, but as they're not interactive, it is too easy to lose focus). I still think it would be better if I did lessons every day, but I only really like using Pimsleur in the car. I don't want to listen to it at home, when I could be doing something like Assimil, and I want to be able to repeat out loud, sometimes very loudly! At the end of the day, work through it whatever way works best for you. If you miss something now, you'll pick it up later. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| sbrn2005 Newbie Korea, South Joined 4770 days ago 14 posts - 25 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 13 of 13 15 May 2012 at 7:22am | IP Logged |
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I'm certainly not an expert, but I think listening to more than 1 lesson a day would be a waste of time. If you listen to more than 1 lesson in a day, I'm sure you'll notice that you can respond more easily to the cues, but you may just be tricking yourself into thinking that you've got it down- when in fact it may only be stored in your short term memory as opposed to your long term memory. Forgetting the words/phrases/grammar is totally normal, don't you think? I think studying from multiple sources (as you're doing already) is the best way, and for some reason when you come across the same information from different sources it tends to re-inforce what you've been studying and trigger memories. Trying to cram, and study too much in one day is counter-productive to long-term memory formation. Also, you said "it is quite time consuming and can be mentally tiring" and anything that is mentally tiring is an enemy of long-term memory formation. That's what I've come to believe, anyway.
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