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VityaCo
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 Message 9 of 14
27 May 2012 at 9:04am | IP Logged 
Hi, osheari1!
My congratulations on finishing this very difficult language course.
Since it is a really old one, I would recommend to you and everyone else, who tried to use older but better or cheaper courses like myself, to buy a contemporary traveler guide with an audio for about 60 - 90 minutes. It is hard to learn a language with them, but they are very good in learning the contemporary vocabulary and pronunciation. Berlitz guide would be a great place to start to look at them.
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 Message 10 of 14
27 May 2012 at 9:43am | IP Logged 
Wulfgar wrote:
I saw an idiom with товарищ. I wonder if it's out of date. It was in the
new Assimil.

edit: На вкус и цвет товарищей нет!
It's actually the title of a lesson, so it would be funny if it were obsolete.

It is widespread now. Товарищ is a normal Russian word, but its usage in the meaning of
"Mr", "Mrs", "Miss" became rare outside of the army and somewhere else.
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Thatzright
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 Message 11 of 14
27 May 2012 at 4:37pm | IP Logged 
Pisces wrote:
In Finnish the translation is 'kaveri' (also for Communists). It's very
commonly used to talk about classmates or people at your workplace - kurssikaverit,
työkaverit. Is товарищ used in the same way in Russia?


Actually it's 'toveri' in Finnish, which is indeed a direct translation of 'tovarish'.
'Kaveri' means just 'friend'.
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Pisces
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 Message 12 of 14
27 May 2012 at 4:45pm | IP Logged 
Oh, yes, that's right. But 'kurssitoveri' and 'työtoveri' exist, so the question remains the same.

Strictly speaking, one's 'kaverit' are not necessarily one's friends.
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 Message 13 of 14
27 May 2012 at 4:57pm | IP Logged 
Pisces wrote:
Oh, yes, that's right. But 'kurssitoveri' and 'työtoveri' exist, so the
question remains the same.

Strictly speaking, one's 'kaverit' are not necessarily one's friends.


True. I was just struggling to come up with a better translation for 'kaveri'... well, I
suppose 'companion' could do, but it's doesn't feel quite the same to me. I don't know. I
do get the feeling that 'tovarish' is not used in the same way in Russian, since it has
way more political connotations in its origin language and is very much associated with
the Soviet era. Of course, a native Russian probably knows best.
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 Message 14 of 14
27 May 2012 at 6:48pm | IP Logged 
I've already replied on the previous page :)))

Other than that, it's not always associated with politics/USSR. In some cases it's natural.


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