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| liammcg Senior Member Ireland Joined 4605 days ago 269 posts - 397 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 30 26 May 2012 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hello all, I have been trying to develop my French guttural R for some time now.I've gotten to the stage where I can pronounce it with little difficulty at the beginning of
words, though a bit to forcefully. This can cause some irritation of the throat. I can however pronounce the rolled R (at the tip of the tongue) since it features in Irish. Is there anywhere in France (the south?) that pronounces R in this manner, similar to Spanish? If so, would it be acceptable to use this type of R as a learner of French. Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4666 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 2 of 30 26 May 2012 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, there are some dialects of French that use the alveolar trill (rolling R), in Africa and a few parts of France and Quebec. Not sure how "acceptable" it is -- I guess it would depend on the people you want to be accepted by! Edited by tastyonions on 26 May 2012 at 9:58pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| rivere123 Senior Member United States Joined 4831 days ago 129 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 3 of 30 26 May 2012 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Tasty onions is right. You'll encounter this in Canada and Louisiana as well as some other places. However,
not to be a stuck up Parisian, the guttural R is more prevalent, and if you stick it out and keep trying, it'll be well worth it. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5454 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 4 of 30 26 May 2012 at 10:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
I've heard that the R is normally pronounced that way in Roussillon. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ljones29 Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4798 days ago 35 posts - 59 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Arabic (Written), Greek | Message 5 of 30 27 May 2012 at 12:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, many African speakers of French speak with a trilled r. I actually really enjoy
the French r and overpronounce it sometimes. There are some helpful videos on Youtube for pronouncing the French R. Good luck. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| COF Senior Member United States Joined 5832 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English* | Message 6 of 30 27 May 2012 at 12:54am | IP Logged | |||||
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French people are highly arrogant about the gutteral R. However, many dialects do roll the R and originally, the R in French was indeed rolled in a manner similar to Spanish and Italian, this gutteral R is a relatively new thing.
In fact, in Edif Piaf's "Non, Je ne regrette rien", you can evidently hear she rolls her Rs, and that was recorded in 1956, so in terms of language, relatively recent. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| HenryMW Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5175 days ago 125 posts - 179 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, French Studies: Modern Hebrew | Message 7 of 30 27 May 2012 at 1:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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According to your profile, German has a high priority on your hit list. They use the guttural R as well, although they also have dialects that roll it. You might be able to
get away with it in French, but you would then have the same problem in German. Stick with it, it's not that bad once you get the hang of it. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4666 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 8 of 30 27 May 2012 at 1:39am | IP Logged | |||||
Is that so? On what basis have you concluded that?
Piaf may have been rolling her Rs in the song because a rolled R is easier to project than a guttural one. When she speaks normally in this interview, her R sounds guttural to me. Edited by tastyonions on 27 May 2012 at 1:51am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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