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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5454 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 25 of 30 15 June 2012 at 11:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
Le Petit Robert dates the form 'chaeze' to 1420, so it probably has noting to do with recent changes to the pronunciation of the R. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 26 of 30 16 June 2012 at 3:42am | IP Logged | |||||
A Linguistics professor told me. Serves me right for not checking... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| aaronfan Newbie United States Joined 4924 days ago 14 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 27 of 30 23 June 2012 at 4:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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In one of my favorite French films, Une femme est une femme (1961, Jean-Luc Goddard), there is a scene where l'homme and le femme sit at table; he accuses her that she cannot even pronounce her R's. Then they precede to roll (?) R's at each other for the next two minutes. It's hilarious. But as I was watching a couple nights ago, I asked myself, Isn't this the trilled R like in Spanish? Because I didn't know and didn't think that anyone could roll or carry the guttaral (uvular) R on incessantly for half a minute or a minute, like I can in Spanish or Russian, or just to annoy people. ;)
It's a great film. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4666 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 28 of 30 23 June 2012 at 5:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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Netflix keeps recommending that movie to me, so maybe I will check it out.
Before I started learning French and (as a result) looking into phonetics, I had no idea that the uvular trill even existed. And when I figured out how to do it I went around rolling it for a while and saying words with Rs in a really elongated, exaggerated way just for the fun of it. Guess I am a bit weird. :-P 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| morinkhuur Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4678 days ago 79 posts - 157 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Maghribi) | Message 29 of 30 23 June 2012 at 10:30am | IP Logged | |||||
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While there may be some dialects that use the alveolar trill (i think it's mainly the african ones which are mostly
foreign accents rather than dialects anyways), the r is most probably not going to be the only sound you aren't getting right, so you won't sound like a native speaker from burgundy with your foreign accent and the rolled r. native speakers are only going to think you are from one of the alveolar trill regions if all other parts of your pronunciation sound native (or sound the way they would in that dialect). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lecavaleur Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4778 days ago 146 posts - 295 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish | Message 30 of 30 23 June 2012 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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If you have the opportunity, take a phonetics class or workshop for either FSL or French
natives. You will improve greatly. Edited by lecavaleur on 23 June 2012 at 6:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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