abdul12345 Bilingual Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4569 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English*, Punjabi*
| Message 1 of 6 27 May 2012 at 2:27am | IP Logged |
For motivational purposes what time frame would you target for a person to learn the grammer aspect of the language.
What are your personal experiences of the grammer.
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MarcusOdim Groupie Brazil Joined 4851 days ago 91 posts - 142 votes
| Message 3 of 6 02 June 2012 at 3:46pm | IP Logged |
hahahahaahahah
It may take your life
It's so much easier to study grammar after you know vocabulary. Grammar is a stressing subject with difficult terminology, if you focus on learning it in the beginning it could be too boring, just try to learn as much vocabulary as you can in the beginning and then study grammar
Here is what I do (considering the fact that I don't use or seriously care about anything besides Portuguese and English): I take a simple and short course such as Teach Yourself, which explains some grammar. As I'm aware of the basic principles of the language's grammar I try to read texts (without translating every single unknown word as it appears for it's awfully stressing and demotivating)
The thing is that you don't need to know everything about your TL's grammar, not even natives do (or care).
As I like Russian but don't need it, I'd say it's gonna take me a few months to learn so much grammar. Studying a grammar book intensively is a waste of time for me, I must have contact with texts in order to, in fact, learn grammar.
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lovinglanguage Hexaglot Newbie United States lovinglanguage.wordp Joined 4542 days ago 4 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, French, Ukrainian, German, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Arabic (classical), Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Maghribi), Dutch, Persian
| Message 4 of 6 23 June 2012 at 6:09am | IP Logged |
It takes *native* speakers several years. I learned Russian as a foreign language, and agonized over grammar. I taught my kids some when they were little. They couldn't figure out verb or noun paradigms--and neither could the kids of the native speakers. They said confusing things like, "Ya xochesh" ("I you-want").
I even heard a 10-year-old in Kiev foul up the genitive plural (a very confusing aspect of Russian grammar). Her aunt briefly corrected her, and the conversation continued.
The bad news: the grammar will take forever. The good news: it's no big deal. Enjoy!
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Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4980 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian
| Message 5 of 6 24 June 2012 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
Russian Grammar...
is a pain in the butt.
I can't help you with a time-frame, because I've been learning 2 years or so on-and-off, and the more I learn, the
less I know. There's always some aspect of some verb or what have you, that needs to be learned, or that's
different, or that changes based on whether or not you're talking in the abstract or about a specific quantity, etc.
etc. I could go on and on...
I'll conclude with this: the history, culture, and people make it worth it.
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4711 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 6 of 6 25 June 2012 at 12:47am | IP Logged |
Just do it.
If not, there's a slew of things you could try, like reading and memorizing grammar
tables, etc. But mostly, just do it. If you speak the language often and learn how to do
it right, the grammar will sink in.
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