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| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7145 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes  Studies: Uzbek | Message 9 of 16 19 June 2012 at 8:34am | IP Logged | ||
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For those with an interest in such things, you might take a look at this site, which has some nice graphics as well as what appear to me to be a variety of non-existent languages:
www.forgottenlanguages.org/ Edited by daristani on 19 June 2012 at 1:10pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6152 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 10 of 16 19 June 2012 at 11:05am | IP Logged | ||
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The guy behind the site explains his reasoning in the following post. It's a clever piece of Perl code that generates language based on word frequency length. Edited by DaraghM on 19 June 2012 at 11:05am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Ayndryl Newbie Spain forgottenlanguages.o Joined 4542 days ago 2 posts - 3 votes | Message 11 of 16 19 June 2012 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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Dear DaraghM and users,
I'm the co-admin of Forgotten Languages Organization. Just registered to correct the statements made on our service: 1) Our service is not on conlangs, 2) Our service is non-commercial (there are no ads, no fees, no subscriptions whatsoever, no products or items on sale, no downloads) Our website belongs to the Invisible Internet: that part of the net that, though being indexed by the search engines, remain 'blind' to the public. We understand you are all language lovers, and we respect your feelings. But we are at the other end: anti-languages, and translation avoidance. Hope this clarify the nature of our site. Yours, Ayndryl Reganah, co-admin www.forgottenlanguages.org, www.shaleawangou.forgottenlanguages.org 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| a3 Triglot Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 5257 days ago 273 posts - 370 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, English, Russian Studies: Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish, Norwegian, Finnish | Message 12 of 16 19 June 2012 at 8:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5419 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 13 of 16 19 June 2012 at 9:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Anti-languages and anti-translation? Could you elaborate?
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| Wulf Newbie United States traditionalisth Joined 4575 days ago 10 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Persian | Message 14 of 16 20 June 2012 at 12:50am | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah, what does that even mean?
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| Ayndryl Newbie Spain forgottenlanguages.o Joined 4542 days ago 2 posts - 3 votes | Message 15 of 16 20 June 2012 at 6:13am | IP Logged | ||
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If you go to the website and click on "Labels" and choose "Anti-Languages", you can browse and see the posts under that category. The paragraphs in English, and the bibliography, both give you a fair complete set of articles, theses, and papers related to private languages, antilanguages, agrammaticalisation theory, the grammar of silence, etc.
You can also click on "Books by Label", on the top bar, and look for "Anti-language". Or use this link here: http://www.forgottenlanguages.org/search/label/Anti-language I cannot give you a ready-made definition of what an antilanguage is or is not, much as you cannot give to me a definition on what a language is or is not. A Google search for the term 'language definition' gives you 460,000 results. The search for the term "anti-language definition" yields just 74 results. The definition of anti-language in Wikipedia goes as "An anti-language is the language of a social group which develops as a means of preventing people from outside the group understanding it". It is a very poor definition which actually applies to jargon or private languages, even to technolects or sacred languages, but not to anti-languages. For translation avoidance I can give you an explanation, though. It is the use of techniques to avoid a given language to be translated into another language. Much as you can avoid people from visiting your web, by IP-blocking (you can even block a whole country), you have the right to avoid your texts to be translated. It is your right. You also have the right to counter those content-based advertising techniques, by simply using an antilanguage which prevents the computer to scan your text, extract some keywords, and display a contents-related advertisement. This also acts as an effective counter-spamming technique. Finally, much as you can use Google Translate to translate a given web page written in a language unknown to you, you can use your own translation system to translate into your native language the contents of, say, our web site (which is what we do). In essence, we are countering the abuse by third parties of your website, something that will become a serious issue in the future. Hope now is clear. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5419 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 16 of 16 20 June 2012 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | ||
Interesting. Thank you for the explanation. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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