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liammcg
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01 July 2012 at 7:56pm | IP Logged 
I have an interest in learning a P Celtic language as I already speak Irish (Q Celtic)
to a near native level. This will be a future project as I already have my hands full
with reaching fluency in French and learning German from scratch. Welsh seems the obvious
choice, given the number of speakers and the availability of resources. Will knowing
Irish give me an advantage over someone that doesn't speak a Celtic language? How similar
(or different) are Irish and Welsh?

Thanks in advance
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montmorency
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02 July 2012 at 12:15pm | IP Logged 
An interesting question.

If you look at the comparisons towards the bottom of
this article, unfortunately,
it does not look as though you will get a great deal of obvious help from Irish, when
learning Welsh.

Some examples of all the living Celtic languages being spoken

here:


My gut feeling is though, that you will still be at a slight advantage over other
native speakers of English who have never learned a Celtic language.



Edited by montmorency on 02 July 2012 at 12:16pm

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maydayayday
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02 July 2012 at 3:05pm | IP Logged 
I had some experience of listening to Irish in my extended family and I learned a little - something like A1.5 level.
I also spent a few summers in Brittany with a French family as a teenager. I learned a little Breton to try to impress a girl.

I learned two things: Irish didn't help me with Breton (but I am more sure of what I am looking for now than I was then.)
The girl wasn't impressed but the old lady in the patissiere was!

When I have time I might go back to Breton.
     
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liammcg
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03 July 2012 at 6:20pm | IP Logged 
Thanks to you both. I've done a bit more research and it seems that Welsh and Irish do
share a number of features which are common to the Celtic family. So though I cannot
expect to benefit from known vocabulary in Irish, there are some things where I'll have a
head start. Thanks
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vermillon
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03 July 2012 at 6:33pm | IP Logged 
maydayayday wrote:
The girl wasn't impressed but the old lady in the patissiere was!

When I have time I might go back to Breton.


Are these two sentences related? Is it possible that you are interested in the lady from the patisserie, now that you've aged a bit?
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maydayayday
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03 July 2012 at 7:39pm | IP Logged 
I could be persuaded, I suppose.


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