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Aurellia
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05 July 2012 at 8:59am | IP Logged 
It is said that today, 5.7., in 863 Saints Cyril and Methodius came into the Czech
Republic (Great Moravia at that time) in order to teach local people literacy.
In the Great Moravia Cyril and Methodius saw that local people come to church every
Sunday but there they would repeat only Latin prayers, not understanding a word of it.
It was this experience that sparkled the idea in Cyril's and Methodius' mind to make a
standardize version of the local language, create script for it and later translate the
Bible into this language.
Yes, you're guessing right - they 'created' Old Church Slavonic.

The Church wasn’t impressed when it found out that people are talking to their Lord in
their local language. In defence, Cyril wrote a versed prologue to a first book ever
written in Old Church Slavonic (or so it is said - it is called Proglas and it is a
translation of a couple of gospels).
In the prologue, Cyril explained how important it is for people to truly understand the
texts in the Bible. It is said that this was the first impulse to start translating the
Bible into one’s native language. An important milestone indeed.

Unfortunately I was unable to find an English version of this prologue. Here is a link
to Czech translation http://www.moraviamagna.cz/texty/t_progla.htm
It's somewhat difficult read so I apologies in advance if my attempt to make a
translation, of the part I think is the most important, has failed.

Kdo může uvést všechny příklady - Who is able to give all the examples
usvědčující národy bez knih,     convicting nations with books,
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které nemluví hlasem srozumitelným? which does not speak in comprehensible voice?
Ani kdybys uměl všechny řeči, - Even if all the languages in the world you could speak
nedovedl bys vylíčit jejich bezmoc.-you wouldn't be able to express their (people of
those nations) helplessness.
Než i já chci připojit své podobenství -I too want to submit my parable
a mnoho smyslu podat v málo slovech. - and give great meaning in a small number of
words.     
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Nahé jsou všechny národy bez knih - Naked are all nations without books.

Thank you for reading, if you’re still reading. I thought that perhaps someone may find
this interesting.
Sorry for any irregularities, I am not an expert of any kind. This is just a summary of
what I learnt at school.

(edits of my writing or translation are more than welcome)

Edited by Aurellia on 05 July 2012 at 9:04am

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Марк
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05 July 2012 at 2:09pm | IP Logged 
Didn't Cyrill actually create the Glagolic alphabet?
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a3
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05 July 2012 at 2:29pm | IP Logged 
Aurellia wrote:
Yes, you're guessing right - they 'created' Old Church Slavonic.
No, they didn't. We spoke it a lot before they were born.
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Aurellia
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05 July 2012 at 2:33pm | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
Didn't Cyrill actually create the Glagolic alphabet?

Yes, he did.
Glagolic is the alphabet Old Church Slavonic was written in at first. Then their
disciples started using Cyrillic.
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Aurellia
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05 July 2012 at 2:37pm | IP Logged 
a3 wrote:
Aurellia wrote:
Yes, you're guessing right - they 'created' Old Church
Slavonic.
No, they didn't. We spoke it a lot before they were born.


That's why created is in quotation marks. They standardized it. Then it could become a
literary language.
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05 July 2012 at 2:52pm | IP Logged 
a3 wrote:
Aurellia wrote:
Yes, you're guessing right - they 'created' Old Church Slavonic.
No, they didn't. We spoke it a lot before they were born.


I'm pretty sure they were dead long before 'you' were born.
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05 July 2012 at 2:54pm | IP Logged 
vermillon wrote:
a3 wrote:
Aurellia wrote:
Yes, you're guessing right - they 'created' Old Church Slavonic.
No, they didn't. We spoke it a lot before they were born.


I'm pretty sure they were dead long before 'you' were born.
By 'we' I meant our ancestors.


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