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| rlf1810 Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6338 days ago 122 posts - 173 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Slovak | Message 9 of 66 17 May 2010 at 2:24am | IP Logged | ||
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TerryW
Never in my life, that I can recall, have I used the word toil in conversation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6444 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 10 of 66 17 May 2010 at 2:50am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm 25, in the states, and I've used it, but only while purposefully trying to hearken back to earlier times (e.g., saying I have to "go toil in the yard" when I actually just need to mow the lawn). So yes, I would say it's dated. :)
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 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6377 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 66 17 May 2010 at 3:54am | IP Logged | ||
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Yup, I was thinking the same thing as Josh, but I'm an old(ish) guy. I usually associate toil with something like "toiling in the fields."
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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5583 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 12 of 66 17 May 2010 at 4:20am | IP Logged | ||
I actually remember using the word toil in the 4th grade, because it rhymed with foil and I had to make a rhyme. The teacher said I was wrong and that the word "toil" didn't exist. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| maaku Senior Member United States Joined 5572 days ago 359 posts - 562 votes Speaks: English* | Message 13 of 66 17 May 2010 at 6:53am | IP Logged | ||
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Toil definitely makes me think of my grandfather's generation.
Of course that's probably why they changed the name. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| TerryW Senior Member United States Joined 6355 days ago 370 posts - 783 votes Speaks: English* | Message 14 of 66 17 May 2010 at 7:31am | IP Logged | ||
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OK, thanks guys, I was wondering if it was just me.
We haven't had any Brits chime in yet, though. Is it used at all in Harry Potter? ;-)
I wonder what they'll call the next generation editions? "Assimil No-sweat Spanish"? "Assimil Walk-in-the-Park Portuguese"? "Assimil Just Chill With French"? "Assimil Smokin' & Jokin' With German"? "Assimil Hangin' Out With Hungarian"? "Assimil Dabblin' With Dutch"? "Assimil No Biggie Bulgarian"? I swear I wasn't setting this up with my original question! ;-) Edited by TerryW on 17 May 2010 at 7:35am 14 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| maaku Senior Member United States Joined 5572 days ago 359 posts - 562 votes Speaks: English* | Message 15 of 66 17 May 2010 at 7:57am | IP Logged | ||
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I like "No Biggie Bulgarian" :)
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| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5563 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 16 of 66 17 May 2010 at 11:20am | IP Logged | ||
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Toil is used in the English press - in contexts such as 'Manchester United toil without Wayne Rooney's pace' - but in my view the word is somewhat of a 'literary' word in British English rather than a common spoken word. I would also venture to guess that this also the case in the 1940s and 1950s when Assimil translated 'sans peine' as Without Toil.
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