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| vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes  Speaks: English*, Portuguese | Message 17 of 66 18 May 2010 at 3:46am | IP Logged | ||
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What level does one reach with the Without Toil series, in comparison to the With Ease and Using series?
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| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5583 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 18 of 66 18 May 2010 at 4:01am | IP Logged | ||
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I'd saying Without Toil is a little better, it has 120 lessons, and the With Ease have less I think (I'm not sure, my book is upstairs, but I don't feel like checking right now :D)
The without Toil series is VERY good, I love them. both programs are excellent in my opinion. The "Using" series, is the advanced program, made for French, German, and Spanish. (For English speakers anyways) You can develop a pretty good fluency from these programs, I made it to lesson 18 of German Without Toil (before I took a little break:P) and I was able to read newspapers and things and understand at least 50% of everything. There is a man on here from Australia that learned German to Advanced fluency through Assimil Without Toil, and got a job doing technical translations. Pretty cool huh!? -Best of luck! If you have the money, definitely buy an Assimil Program. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese | Message 19 of 66 18 May 2010 at 4:26am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the feedback. Basically, what I'm asking is does Without Toil = With Ease + Using? Yes, I've read about fanatic on this forum; he is the one who inspired me to start using the Assimil programs. I'm familiar with them now though, as I am well into New French with Ease. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6444 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 20 of 66 18 May 2010 at 5:17am | IP Logged | ||
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From what I've seen, the Without Toil courses are a bit more detailed than a With Ease course, but certainly not enough to be equal to a With Ease and Using combined. While some of them do have more lessons, the Without Toil books present similar amounts of grammar and vocabulary as the With Ease courses.
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 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6377 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 21 of 66 18 May 2010 at 6:06am | IP Logged | ||
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I've worked through both Italian Without Toil and Italian With Ease. I think the biggest difference in the books is when certain concepts are introduced. For example, the subjunctive is introduced right away in Without Toil but not until the end of With Ease. Maybe the reason is that the early editions were not specifically designed for English speakers and were more direct translations of the French series for which there was no reason to introduce the grammar slowly since Italian grammar and French grammar are of course very similar. Edited by newyorkeric on 18 May 2010 at 6:15am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese | Message 22 of 66 18 May 2010 at 6:40am | IP Logged | ||
Your feedback on the older versions of Assimil is very much appreciated, but it is worth noting that it may not be fair to make comparisons between the Without Toil series and the modern Assimil Japanese and Chinese courses. Asian languages never tended to be that company's strong suit... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6377 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 66 18 May 2010 at 7:32am | IP Logged | ||
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The current Japanese and Chinese courses are the first ones made by Assimil. Maaku was comparing the quality of these new courses to the older courses of different languages.
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| vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese | Message 24 of 66 18 May 2010 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, but Assimil makes its best courses (by far) for European languages, not Asian languages. Therefore, if maaku were to compare the older and newer Assimil courses, he should compare them using the same language (i.e. German Without Toil and German With Ease). Edited by vikramkr on 18 May 2010 at 3:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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