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Old Assimil - is it obsolete?

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andee
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 Message 25 of 66
18 May 2010 at 4:33pm | IP Logged 
I wouldn't say that Japanese with Ease is pitiful by any stretch.
In observing the teaching in a first year university Japanese class, I've noticed that the material in the 10th week of the program does not cover the grammar encountered in about lesson 13 of Japanese with Ease. The class is using the Nakama text and is on about Chapter 5 or 6 I think; that's about 150 pages of a 'textbook' compared with about 70 pages of Assimil.
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 Message 26 of 66
18 May 2010 at 4:49pm | IP Logged 
vikramkr wrote:
Yes, but Assimil makes its best courses (by far) for European languages, not Asian languages. Therefore, if maaku were to compare the older and newer Assimil courses, he should compare them using the same language (i.e. German Without Toil and German With Ease).


Right, I see your point now although I think the Chinese course is quite good.

Edited by newyorkeric on 18 May 2010 at 4:49pm
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 Message 27 of 66
18 May 2010 at 5:17pm | IP Logged 
newyorkeric wrote:
I've worked through both Italian Without Toil and Italian With Ease. I think the biggest difference in the books is when certain concepts are introduced. For example, the subjunctive is introduced right away in Without Toil but not until the end of With Ease. Maybe the reason is that the early editions were not specifically designed for English speakers and were more direct translations of the French series for which there was no reason to introduce the grammar slowly since Italian grammar and French grammar are of course very similar.


Where did you get the Old Assimil Italian Without Toil? I can't find it anywhere :/
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 Message 28 of 66
18 May 2010 at 5:19pm | IP Logged 
TerryW wrote:
OK, thanks guys, I was wondering if it was just me.

We haven't had any Brits chime in yet, though. Is it used at all in Harry Potter? ;-)

maaku wrote:
Of course that's probably why they changed the name.


I wonder what they'll call the next generation editions?

"Assimil No-sweat Spanish"?

"Assimil Walk-in-the-Park Portuguese"?

"Assimil Just Chill With French"?

"Assimil Smokin' & Jokin' With German"?

"Assimil Hangin' Out With Hungarian"?

"Assimil Dabblin' With Dutch"?

"Assimil No Biggie Bulgarian"?

I swear I wasn't setting this up with my original question! ;-)


I seriously laughed really loud at the "Walk-in-the-Park Portuguese" hahaha :D

I wish they had a brazilian Portuguese English based course.
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 Message 29 of 66
18 May 2010 at 5:21pm | IP Logged 
I got it very cheaply on abebooks.com (less than $10 I think). I was suprised you wrote that because there used to be a bunch of copies for sale there and also on amazon.com.
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 Message 30 of 66
18 May 2010 at 6:18pm | IP Logged 
newyorkeric wrote:
I got it very cheaply on abebooks.com (less than $10 I think). I was suprised you wrote that
because there used to be a bunch of copies for sale there and also on amazon.com.

What about the audio?
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 Message 31 of 66
18 May 2010 at 6:43pm | IP Logged 
rlf1810 wrote:
TerryW

Never in my life, that I can recall, have I used the word toil in conversation.


I have certainly used the word toil plenty of times, and have heard it used plenty of times. But then I am English and, shall we say, of the "older generation" (I am 45). Perhaps youngsters in the UK no longer use it.
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 Message 32 of 66
18 May 2010 at 7:09pm | IP Logged 
I have never heard the word "toil" used in conversation, in America.


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