Hologen Newbie United States Joined 5304 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 1 of 32 06 June 2010 at 1:45am | IP Logged |
I know many of you don't take much stock in the idea of sleep learning, and that is fine, you still might be able to help me! The idea is just total immersion and I personally feel that there is a lot of potential in sleep learning, as the subconscious is so powerful, and it couldn't hurt. Anyway, I don't really know HOW to go about doing this, I can't just let my computer play some non-stop streaming news broadcast or something because I'm limited to 5GB of usage a month with my internet provider. It's my best and only option right now with where I live. Most DVDs do not replay themselves (they only replay the menu) so I don't think that would work either. I have an Ipod classic (120GB storage) so maybe if anyone has any idea where I could find some massive, non-stop, real-life conversation file (if one even exists) that will play for at least 8 hours straight, I might be able to work something out with that. The target language is Japanese. I hope someone has some advice cause I don't even know where to look.
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Hologen Newbie United States Joined 5304 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 2 of 32 06 June 2010 at 2:41am | IP Logged |
Well someone recommended an audio book on repeat on my ipod. Which is a great and obvious idea I can't believe I didn't think of. So nevermind I guess lol..
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PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5373 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish
| Message 3 of 32 06 June 2010 at 4:04am | IP Logged |
Thanks for suggesting a news broadcast. I've done this twice so far with audio from my courses - the first time it was quite relaxing, I dreamt in my target language (admittedly with other people doing the thinking) and I woke up with phrases popping through my head. The second time I made the mistake of playing it too loud, and woke up one and a half hours into sleep on the only half-English track I had, so I stopped it.
I think I'll try it tonight with a radio station if I can find one. What harm can it do?
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John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6042 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 4 of 32 06 June 2010 at 12:49pm | IP Logged |
The secret is to learn how to lucid dream!!!
In a lucid dream you are in control. You can do anything you want! Even study your language. Practice it all night long!!!
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tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5866 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 5 of 32 06 June 2010 at 2:38pm | IP Logged |
John Smith wrote:
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Google gives a lot of hits if you search for "lucid dreaming" "language learning".
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5766 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 6 of 32 06 June 2010 at 3:45pm | IP Logged |
Your best bet it to also learn the same things in your daytime. :P
But honestly, you don't need 8 hours of conversation. You can just, you know ... put a single file or a playlist on repeat. That's what I do when I want to force myself to sleep only for two to four hours ...
Anyhow, try 荒川強啓 デイ・キャッチ! or 新聞って面白い?中学生さくらのポッドキャ スト, both have a very nice flow of conversation.
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dolly Senior Member United States Joined 5790 days ago 191 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin
| Message 7 of 32 06 June 2010 at 4:52pm | IP Logged |
Get a good night's sleep. SLEEP, just let go, get the rest you need, and you'll be fresh and alert in the morning and all the more able to learn languages. If your brain wants to dream about noun declensions, fine, but maybe after being bombarded with language recordings every time the lights go out, the brain will want an escape from it, because there is more to life. This kind of incessant and inescapable propaganda-noise is like 1984.
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Enki Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5833 days ago 54 posts - 133 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written), English*, French, Korean Studies: Japanese
| Message 8 of 32 06 June 2010 at 7:00pm | IP Logged |
Memorize a short passage before going to bed, repeat it mentally as you drift to sleep, then try to remember as much as you can after you wake up. That's the most efficient and least controversial kind of "sleep learning". Works for me, anyway.
If you don't like memorizing, listening to a short clip just before going to bed and after waking up works well too. I guess you could also listen to that same clip while sleeping.
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