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Elexi
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16 January 2011 at 12:51pm | IP Logged 
like Assimil or Linguaphone to actually produce speech?

Obviously one can just immerse oneself in the language and go over enough times to get the structures 'in your head' but does anyone use techniques like working out model sentences from a lesson and developing speech production by FSI style substitution drills?

What do you do?

Edited by Elexi on 16 January 2011 at 12:59pm

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Normunds
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19 January 2011 at 3:55pm | IP Logged 
my theory is that once you get them in your head they are ready to come out from your mouth. And the first part of getting them in is being able to understand what you hear. No point speaking before. Apart of repeating what you hear, but that's really part of the listening :-)

I split the audio, add repetitions with pauses in between, so you have enough time to repeat what you hear, and then listen to them while jogging, biking, ironing or just walking. ad nauseum.

Does it help? dunno? well, yes, i can produce them eventually... One advante to this approach with mono-lingual material vs. say Pimsleur-like course with substantial prompts in English, is that you can listen to it many times without being endlessly slowed down and distracted by the prompter.

FSI substitution/transformation drills IMO are a bit passé. It could be ok, if you have them, but spending time developing them... I would not :-)

I guess this is the "obvious solution" you mention. What I spend additional time on, is going through transcripts and adding wordlists to SRS; though not really sure how efficient this part is. I usually discard the old wordlists when I'm not working on the particular course, else they grow too big... and I have terrible doubts about the use of inverse cards, though I always create them as well.

good luck
Normunds
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