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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5264 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes  Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 97 of 128 13 December 2011 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
There is a consistently faint whiff of an animus against Russian in your posts. Just an observation, carry on. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5325 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 98 of 128 13 December 2011 at 10:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
Funny how people perceive things differently. I have followed nway's writings for a long time, and I see commitment, dedication and passion - plus more knowledge about statistics and how to find them than I'll learn in a lifetime. But not negativity against any particular language. Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 13 December 2011 at 11:02pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| canada38 Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5486 days ago 304 posts - 417 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: Portuguese, Japanese | Message 99 of 128 16 December 2011 at 4:44am | IP Logged | |||||
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I agree very much with Solfrid Cristin; I don't see anything against the Russian language
in nway's post. But to be fair, Merv did say, "faint". 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5047 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 100 of 128 16 December 2011 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In another thread nway argued that Russia is a hellish place to live and Russian goes
nowhere. I wonder if there is statistics about how many people study certain languages at schools and universities in certain countries. How can we find it? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bjorn Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 4859 days ago 244 posts - 286 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: German, French | Message 101 of 128 16 December 2011 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Interesting. How about Russia? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| floydak Tetraglot Groupie Slovakia Joined 4845 days ago 60 posts - 85 votes Speaks: Slovak*, English, German, Spanish Studies: French | Message 102 of 128 16 December 2011 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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this might be usefuel if someone is interested in it.. quite exhausting.
title: Key Data on Teaching Languages at School in Europe 2008 description: The second edition of this report gives a clear picture of the language teaching systems in place in the schools of 31 countries covered by the Eurydice Network. It covers aspects ranging from foreign language learning at a very early age, the variety of languages learnt, the taught time at various education levels, the proportion of language learners at each level, content and language integrated learning (CLIL) to the training of teachers of foreign languages from primary to secondary general education. c lickhere Edited by floydak on 16 December 2011 at 3:29pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5042 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 103 of 128 16 December 2011 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
Not long ago, a very good Russian author visited the journalism department of the Moscow State University. When asked by a student what are Russia's chances for progress, she replied "we're tumbling into the abyss, there can be no doubt about it and there's nothing one can do. All I can say in consolation is that this has been the distinctive historical feature of our country since its inception. When Muscovy began to expand eastward to Siberia, it acquired the kind of problems that come with conquering land where you're not welcomed. In the end it got endless stretches of impenetrable territory. Who would build the roads? We're not like the American pioneers with their drive to get to the frontier. We have a different climate, different peoples, different habits... Our population is not small, but we're all lazy. We know nothing about democracy. We have also been conquered by the Tatars. Americans were not. We ourselves have become Tatars. We actually are Tatars to some degree. At least I am. I can trace it on both sides of my family. But that's not the point. I want to say that Russia is quite a strange country. It's always perishing. It had completely perished in 1917. You may try to argue that, but to what end? A whole layer of culture perished. Take the city of New Orleans, for instance. Did it perish or did it not? It seems to remain standing, but after the hurricane it shall never ever ever be the same again. Likewise, Russia shall never be the same after it perished in 1917. But here we all are, sitting... Certainly, today the country is still very diverse. In the future, it will slip up, fall over, lose its limb or head -- God forbid if some other chunk of land chips off. The Soviet Union crumbled and, in theory, Russia can keep on crumbling further. I know the Soviet Union broke along the wrong lines; that was dumb and not very pleasant. But history took different turns in various parts of this huge country. Russia is definitely tumbling into the abyss, but I will repeat that this is its distinctive historical feature." Boy did I get carried away translating this... Anyway, the point is that it's no use pretending that everything is fine, especially at a time when the political party in power pays teenagers to gather in swarms and attack the few dissatisfied citizens who dare to come out on the streets and protest. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5047 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 104 of 128 16 December 2011 at 6:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
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espejissimo, don't start a political discussion! There is difference between denying that
"everything is fine in Russia" and saying "Russia is a hellish place to live". Edited by Марк on 16 December 2011 at 6:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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