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| MeganJoan Pro Member Australia Joined 5220 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Indonesian, French Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 30 03 December 2011 at 4:25am | IP Logged | ||||||||
My use of words was wrong then. When I said self teach I meant look up individual words or rules and form sentences yourself from scratch. As I said in my first post, my main goal is just to build vocab but I need a something verbal to do this so that I'm also getting the pronunciation correct. If you've got more suggestions or something productive to say I'd be pleased to hear it, but please stop saying the direction I was given was stupid as you actually know nothing of the situation and as I said before I'm not in a position to explain. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5451 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 10 of 30 03 December 2011 at 5:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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If the language school is saying that you shouldn't start by picking up a dictionary and a grammar book and then
looking up individual words and grammar rules, I agree. You're way better off starting with something like Linguaphone, Assimil, Teach Yourself, Colloquial or even Rosetta Stone. The purpose of any language learning program is to enable you to become a proficient language user. That means enabling your to form meaningful sentences on your own. All of these programs will therefore, with greater or lesser success, not only try to teach you vocabulary and pronunciation, but also how to put the words together in meaningful ways. That will give you a head start when your language school begins. Good luck. :-) Edited by tractor on 03 December 2011 at 5:07am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| MeganJoan Pro Member Australia Joined 5220 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Indonesian, French Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 30 03 December 2011 at 5:08am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thanks :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5451 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 12 of 30 03 December 2011 at 5:25am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Sorry if I came off harsh. Didn't mean to.
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| MeganJoan Pro Member Australia Joined 5220 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Indonesian, French Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 30 03 December 2011 at 5:26am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Ditto.
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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7119 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 15 of 30 03 December 2011 at 12:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thank you to all those who mentioned 'Teach Yourself Indonesian' on this thread.
However, Megan, you don't need to buy a course to get started on Indonesian. (Did I really just write that?) There is a site called www.learningindonesian.com that offers a range of free podcasts that you can make good use of before your course starts. Also, go to Youtube and search for 'learn Indonesian' and you'll turn up plenty you can use, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqUonfKwxc I don't know why you wouldn't start learning on your own before you start your course, after all, no matter what course you take, you will be learning a lot on your own anyway. As long as you do it the right way, anything you learn in advance will halp you in your studies in the long run. Definitely use a recording of native speakers to learn from, and do your best to imitate them as closely as possible. Watch that 'ng' sound, especially at the beginning of words and in the middle of words like 'jangan' because it's the one that English speakers find most awkward to reproduce. Listen also, to the intonation of Indonesian speakers. Indonesian is not tonal like Chinese or Thai, but the intonation can be different from English. If you are set on learning vocabulary, then I also recommend you spend some time looking at the concept of how words are built up in Indonesian from words roots. Knowing how the affixes (bits added to the beginning, end, or even within words) often create predictable, related vocabulary. For example, 'ajar' is a root related to learning. Look what the addition of various affixes do the base with regards to meaning: ajaran - teaching belajar - to study mengajar - to teach pelajar - student pelajaran - lesson pengajar - instructor pengajaran - instruction ...and so on. Yet, you've got the root 'ajar' there in every case. If you want to buy something, look up 'Welcome To Indonesian - A Beginner's Study of the Language' by Stuart Robson. It will give you a bit of background to the language you will be studying, and also an introduction to word and sentence formation. You might also like 'Indonesian In A Flash', which is a set of flashcards also produced by Tuttle, if you like that approach. I would stress that you need to hear native speakers. Selamat belajar! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| MeganJoan Pro Member Australia Joined 5220 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Indonesian, French Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 30 03 December 2011 at 12:32pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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That is really helpful, thankyou. Do you know of any sources that specifically go into
word roots? That sounds like it would be something really useful to look into. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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