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| fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7144 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes  Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 17 of 30 03 December 2011 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would suggest the most suitable program would be a free Pimsleur type course you can download from http://www.learningindonesian.com/.
You can download 48 short audio lessons and PDF notes for the lessons from the website. You can pay and get more lessons but I think the free content would be plenty to get you started. You can play the lessons on an mp3 player. The lessons are fairly short so I prefer them to Pimsleur. I am currently working with them and with Linguaphone plus some other material. Seeing you live in Australia you can also get a cheap introduction to the language from Nodtronics in Sydney. They produce the Eureka material which is made by Transparent Languages but sells for a fraction of the cost. I bought The Big Box of Languages from a post office which has around 80 languages but you can get a volume of Languages of the World for around $10 with around 10 languages. Just make sure you buy volume 6 which has both Indonesian and Malay. Have a look at their website. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7119 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 18 of 30 03 December 2011 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes. James Neil Sneddon's 'Indonesian A Comprehensive Grammar' published by Routledge. It's a magnificent work!
Indonesian is deceptively simple when it comes to basic conversation. However, it has all sorts of fascinating nuances at a higher level. Dwi Noverini Djenar's 'A Student's Guide To Indonesian Grammar' is also excellent and should be easy to get in Oz as it is an Australian OUP publication. It beats me why they don't make that and the 'Oxford Study Indonesian Dictionary' (get it - it's great!) more easily accessible to the rest of the world. I have told them about this! The downside is that neither grammar has audio, and the latter has no key. oup.co.au is the URL. It amazes me why they haven't opened a local Amazon for Australasia. I am sure there are plenty of buyers in OZ and NZ who would love to save money on international shipping from the US or the UK. Edited by Chris on 03 December 2011 at 1:00pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7144 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 19 of 30 03 December 2011 at 1:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi Chris.
I am also using Teach Yourself and Colloquial Indonesian. I feel they complement each other. I also bought Keren which is a school textbook with a CD Rom at a Salvation Army opportunity shop for $2. Everyday Indonesian (and Everyday Malay) by Thomas Oey are both good introductions to the language. I bought Instant Indonesian by Stuart Robson over the net from Angus and Robertson. It teaches 100 basic words but each in context. I have found it very useful. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MeganJoan Pro Member Australia Joined 5220 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Indonesian, French Personal Language Map | Message 20 of 30 03 December 2011 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | ||
That sounds quite perfect because it means I can put both the PDFs and the audio on my iPad and work from there rather than having to use a computer or book/MP3 playing. This is a bizarre thing to say, and it's not at all on topic but thank you. Not for the advice you just gave but because your book is actually the reason that I'm now being paid to study language full time and become a linguist. I'd never let myself give in to the idea that it was a viable option for me until you inspired me to give it a go through your writing. I found what I wanted to do and it completely changed my life. I'm glad I did now, because I love languages more with every new thing I learn. Sorry to be so random (and admittedly quite creepy), but I couldn't reply to your post without saying something. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MeganJoan Pro Member Australia Joined 5220 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Indonesian, French Personal Language Map | Message 21 of 30 03 December 2011 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | ||
Wonderful, I will definitely look into that. Finding those interesting patterns, quirks or meanings in languages is wonderful. Even with English I am constantly discovering. It's fascinating and exciting. Amazon has actually just started international shipping directly to Australia. Well, I'm not sure if it's a new thing, but I got an email about it this morning. Finally. It's taken them long enough. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7119 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 22 of 30 03 December 2011 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | ||
Hello Fanatic! It's been a while. In fact, it was you who tempted me back onto the forum. I also think that TY and Colloquial are good together, as I posted in another thread a long time ago. Colloquial takes you further, but it doesn't really teach you a lot of functional stuff. For example, you'll learn how to talk about demonstrations in Trafalgar Square, but you won't learn the more immediate conversational necessities such as ordering food or haggling with a street seller. That is not to say Colloquial is not an excellent book, on the contrary, I recommend it wholeheartedly, but I also recommend that learners start out with TY and phase Colloquial in later. The focus of the books is different: TY is more functional, Colloquial (despite the name) is more grammatical in its approach. If you want a good grammar/grammar-translation workout in Indonesian, look for the books published by The Singapore Times. Oldies but goodies! Out of interest, the editor for the new TY Indonesian, 'Complete Teach Yourself Indonesian' was John Pride, a superb editor who also worked on Linguaphone's Indonesian, and who also wrote a best-selling Spanish course for schools. That 'Keren' purchase was a bargain. I know of it, but I've never seen it. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DavidW Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6524 days ago 318 posts - 458 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French, Italian, Persian, Malay Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, German, Urdu | Message 24 of 30 27 December 2011 at 3:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Here's something I wrote in an older thread:
Beginning Indonesian (John Wolff, Cornell). A very thorough course with dialogues and drills. Available as a computer program that contains, I think, all the material from the books and tapes. John Wolff also produced a number of other Indonesian materials, which look really excellent. Bahasa Indonesia, Introduction to Indonesian Language and Culture. Two volumes. Another comprehensive drill based course (with dialogs and readings) which is apparently the standard textbook at Australian universities. Has audio but I never found it sold anywhere. DLI Indonesian - a lot of material here. Some units have a military bias. I never used it much as I came across it later. Linguaphone Indonesian course. 40 lessons. Dialogs, grammer notes and written exercises. About 1.5 hours of recordings. I really liked this course, really nice voices and gentle introduction to the language. Out of print. Pick it up 'in Uzbekistan.' Assimil L'indonésien sans peine. Dialogs and grammer notes. About 2 hours of recordings. Also highly recommended. I could never find any audiobooks in Indonesian, other than perhaps the odd self-help one. Would appreciate it if anyone knew of any. For bilingual news articles with audio, try http://gloss.dliflc.edu/ 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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