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 Message 9 of 22
19 April 2012 at 3:28pm | IP Logged 
OK Tarvos, thank you for informing about the varieties of languages and dialects spoken
in Scotland. I suppose I would say the coolest English accent is Dutch :~}
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 Message 10 of 22
20 April 2012 at 5:59pm | IP Logged 
That is probably my least favourite one. I witness the Dutch butchering the pleasant English language on a daily basis...
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20 April 2012 at 7:00pm | IP Logged 
Really! I always wanted to marry a Dutch girl because I love the way the Dutch sound
when speaking English. But fate intervened and I married a Dane...
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 Message 12 of 22
01 June 2012 at 1:29am | IP Logged 
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
COF wrote:
Do people recognise those as British accents, or to
most people, is a British accent basically how Hugh Grant, etc, speak?


"Some people I know" tend to judge accents in movies according to this:
*non-rhotic accent - British
*non-rhotic + glottal stops - Cockney
*rhotic tap - Scottish
*non-rhotic + high-rising terminal - Australian
*rhotic tap/alveolar + high rising terminal - Irish
*rhotic - American/Canadian
*"rural" British English (for lack of better description) - usually Irish/Scottish

Oh, the humanity.



You and your rhotic :-)


You have missed out, for example, East Anglian (Norfolk, etc, "hev yew got a loight
boy...?"

West Country (Devon, Cornish, Somerset, Dorset...Gloucester, Bristol., Wiltshire...)

Brummie, Black Country...."Midlands" ...Stoke ... "East Midlands"....Nottingham....


Lancashire (north and south)+Cumbria vs Yorkshire (Various varieties)

Kentish ... sounds like London/Cockney, until you listen more carefully...

plus a few others I've probably forgotten.

Admittedly it's all getting flattened out nowadays, but it's still reasonably complex.

One could also talk about "Estuary".



Admittedly, you won't hear many, e.g. Black Country, accents in films (more's the
pity).


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 Message 13 of 22
01 June 2012 at 5:10am | IP Logged 
Adele is the most famous representative of the real British English these days.
Just listen to her speak in her interviews, and get the idea. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBlfT0ij5i4

She does not use/have/put on any staged or learned accent when she speaks (although she sings in an American accent).


Edited by Camundonguinho on 01 June 2012 at 5:15am

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 Message 14 of 22
01 June 2012 at 8:41am | IP Logged 
montmorency wrote:
You have missed out, for example, East Anglian / West Country (Devon, Cornish, Somerset, Dorset...Gloucester, Bristol., Wiltshire...)[...]


I was referring to what people I know usually say when this or that accent is in a film. I assume that all accents you've added count as "rural". At least, I've heard people shout "Wow, that's Irish!" (or Scottish) at any random British film or TV series where the actors didn't sound exactly like Hugh Grant, e.g. Emerdale Farm, Billy Elliott, Brassed Off, Bend it like Beckham, anything by Ken Loach and the list goes on.
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 Message 15 of 22
01 June 2012 at 10:06pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
Elexi wrote:
I should add that RP is not the same accent as the London accent and Scottish is not an
English accent.



Scottish English definitely exists, it's English spoken with a Scottish accent. There is also Scots the dialect and then Scots Gaelic the Gaelic language, but Scottish English is merely English pronounced with Scottish intonation :)


Also Old Scots which many would class as a Germanic language in its own right.
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 Message 16 of 22
01 June 2012 at 10:48pm | IP Logged 
jeff_lindqvist wrote:
montmorency wrote:
You have missed out, for example, East
Anglian / West Country (Devon, Cornish, Somerset, Dorset...Gloucester, Bristol.,
Wiltshire...)[...]


I was referring to what people I know usually say when this or that accent is in a
film. I assume that all accents you've added count as "rural". At least, I've heard
people shout "Wow, that's Irish!" (or Scottish) at any random British film or TV series
where the actors didn't sound exactly like Hugh Grant, e.g. Emerdale Farm, Billy
Elliott, Brassed Off, Bend it like Beckham, anything by Ken Loach and the list goes on.



Sorry Jeff, I was replying to what I thought you were saying, rather than to what you
were actually saying :-(


I realise you are aware there is a diversity beyond what normally appears on the
screen.

Sorry again.


A lot of "rural" accents in the south of England sound pretty similar, to be honest.
And there is a fairly generic "northern" accent that covers a lot of areas.


You may have heard of the expression "Mummerset", meaning a generalised and vaguely
west country accent. (Borrowed from the name of the county of "Somerset").



I mourn the loss of genuine regional UK accents these days, especially among the young.
:-(
I'm speaking of England. I think they are still strong in Scotland.
Wales is a bit more problematic, due to English influence.




EDIT: The original Cornish accent is fabulous, but occasionally, I will hear
Cornish young people interviewed on BBC, and they might as well come from an estate
somewhere in the London area. *Weep*

Only the old people speak with the real Cornish accent/dialect.
Similarly in Devon.

EDIT2:
Cornish voices, 1960s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=YzmkQKaSEso


Edited by montmorency on 01 June 2012 at 11:04pm



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