languagefreak Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5238 days ago 51 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Russian, English* Studies: German
| Message 1 of 16 24 April 2012 at 2:07am | IP Logged |
I saw this clip of Arnold speaking German and I found it a bit strange... I know he is from Austria, though. So I was
wondering if his German is simply because he is speaking an Austrian dialect, or for some other reason. I just
haven't heard any Austrian person pronounce words like he does.
Here is a clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_OaPkR-rVs
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nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5406 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean
| Message 2 of 16 24 April 2012 at 6:38am | IP Logged |
I apologize if this comes across as sounding like a smartass comment, but this comment under the video seems to answer your question:
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He comes from Graz, my hometown. it's in the south of the whole German speaking area.
He has the typical styrian accent , of course with some american accent. |
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Edited by nway on 24 April 2012 at 6:39am
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6076 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 3 of 16 24 April 2012 at 10:47am | IP Logged |
he-he-he! Look how young he is! yeah, he's a Grazer. Speaks with a heavy accent. Anybody who's interested in this type of dialect, check out den steirischen Dialekt! . (Thanks to the group "Gnackwatschn":))
edit: oops, link fixed.
Edited by Sunja on 24 April 2012 at 11:05am
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4900 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 4 of 16 24 April 2012 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
I read somewhere that because of his accent, they wouldn't let him do his own parts in the German dub of The Terminator. Supposedly, he sounds like a farmer to an average German speaker.
On the other hand, it sounds like it might be an urban legend. I would guess the real reason is that he would have been too expensive. Still, an amusing little story.
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6076 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 5 of 16 24 April 2012 at 5:20pm | IP Logged |
I also read that his styrish/steirisch accent is so strong that many Germans need subtitles during his interviews in German.
(This is just forum hearsay) but because of his busy schedule he only comes to Austria when he travels over here, and since Austria doesn't have the biggest/best synchronisation studios, they pull in Thomas Dannenberg to do the job, who has -quite- an extensive CV doing voice-overs for the German film industry. His voice is more well-known in Germany than Arnie's!^^
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5325 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 6 of 16 25 April 2012 at 1:18am | IP Logged |
I understood more than what I usually understand when people speak German with an Austrian accent, but then I generally find it incomprehensible, so anything is better than nothing.
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koba Heptaglot Senior Member AustriaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5859 days ago 118 posts - 201 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Hungarian, French
| Message 7 of 16 02 May 2012 at 1:48am | IP Logged |
Austrian dialects can sound very strange and difficult to understand in the beginning, I
was there for about two weeks (in Graz as well) and having learned most of my German
through Deutsch-Welle and other resources in "Hochdeutsch", I must say that I was lost on
the first few days.
I would look at two people having a conversation in front of me and only understand
scraps of their conversation. It's very messy and fast, but if you speak German you can
get used to it after spending a few days in that environment.
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Rob_Austria Heptaglot Groupie Austria Joined 4993 days ago 84 posts - 293 votes Speaks: German*, Italian, Spanish, French, English, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Croatian, Mandarin, Russian, Arabic (Written), Turkish
| Message 8 of 16 03 May 2012 at 10:23am | IP Logged |
I'm Austrian, actually I'm Styrian and only live about 30 km south of the area where Schwarzenegger grew up. His German is certainly heavily influenced by his "American English". You won't find anybody else coming even close to the way he speaks - he sort of created his own language if you want, or better saying it just developed throughout the years as he lived in the States while obviously keeping some linguistic aspects (intonation, certain pronunciation of words) of his native tongue.
As for Austrian German in general, it is true that people mostly speak in their dialects in daily life but most of them are able to have a conversation in standard German (which still will be Austrian German as regards intonation and usage of certain words etc.) when talking to foreigners.
Styria has, like all other provinces, a number of different dialects. Schwarzenegger's remnants of Styrian sound more like what we call "Stoasteirisch" (literally translated "stone Styrian", "stoa" meaning "Stein", i. e. "stone"), a dialect spoken in western and southern Styria (I live in southern Styria).
As a matter of fact, this dialect is not the most popular one in Austria. People speaking that dialect are said to "bark". I remember that even at school teachers would tell kids coming from rural areas to stop "barking" and start "speaking".
When I took on my first student job in another province I was asked where I had left my "muzzle" once the owner of the restaurant knew I came from Styria. It was supposed to be a joke but I thought it was just stupid, especially since my German was much more standard than the local dialect he spoke in.
As for me, I don't really speak the local dialect but I understand it. I don't speak it because at home we always spoke a mixture of dialects for various reasons and, of course, I only speak standard German at work (while I love playing with dialects at home and/or with friends).
For those who want to get a first taste of standard Austrian German, you can have a look at some of the German videos on my youtube site.
I would like to underscore that Austrians actually DO SPEAK standard German, we simply don't normally do so with friends and family members. Besides, our standard German is the Austrian version which is just as comprehensible to any foreigner as some of the German variants spoken in Germany.
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