COF Senior Member United States Joined 5822 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 17 of 26 17 May 2012 at 1:14pm | IP Logged |
fiolmattias wrote:
Perhaps that is one of many reasons? Other may be politics (we are by birth socialists,
which country do you think we symphatize more with ;) ), but that is perhaps a
different discussion all together.
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Err, since when was America more socialist than the UK? However, there does seem to be an underlying anti-British sentiment in Sweden, as you have demonstrated.
The Swedish seem to view the UK as this ultra-right wing country, despite not having a clue about British politics. It's all prejudice.
Edited by COF on 17 May 2012 at 1:18pm
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6900 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 18 of 26 17 May 2012 at 1:23pm | IP Logged |
Camundonguinho wrote:
Norwegians sound more American, the Swedes more British. The Swedes pronounce HUT as [hät] (with a Cockney/Australian a), so it sounds like American/Norwegian pronunciation of HOT. Norwegian ø is close to the American vowel in LOVE, BUT, CURRY... |
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Even if this vowel thing was generally "true", no Norwegian I've heard has had the slightest hint of American prosody (or British or any other "native English" prosody), and that's what makes people sound American.
An accent isn't the same as getting each individual sound right - it has to sound right as well.
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COF Senior Member United States Joined 5822 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 19 of 26 17 May 2012 at 1:36pm | IP Logged |
From what I've heard, the Swedish don't even like the British accent and many of them think it is funny sounding.
But the Swedish tend to dislike the British. They see the UK as the total opposite of their perfect, egalitarian, socialist, democratic society.
You've only got to see the way Swedish football fans are when Sweden plays England. Never mind Spain, Brazil, France, etc, there's no bigger prize for a Swedish football fan than beating England.
The Swedish clearly take issue with England. It isn't mutual however, most English people couldn't care less about Sweden. To them it's just a little country somewhere north of Germany.
Edited by COF on 17 May 2012 at 1:46pm
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fiolmattias Triglot Groupie Sweden geocities.com/fiolmaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6680 days ago 62 posts - 129 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, Arabic (Written)
| Message 20 of 26 17 May 2012 at 4:53pm | IP Logged |
You didn't get many points on this test :)
COF wrote:
From what I've heard, the Swedish don't even like the British accent and
many of them think it is funny sounding.
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Many of US do like the dialect and especially in the older generations many tend to try
to adopt a British dialect.
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But the Swedish tend to dislike the British. They see the UK as the total opposite of
their perfect, egalitarian, socialist, democratic society.
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Ask any swede what country of the US and the UK that would be the "total opposite" it
would not be the Brits ;)
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The Swedish clearly take issue with England.
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Where do you get this from? Do you think that in the US? We don't think so here in
Sweden... Do you know that just about most Swedes go to the UK every year on weekend
trips? Our hate object is Norway in everything but sports, then it is Finland :D
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And that is the first true thing you wrote today ;)
Edited by fiolmattias on 17 May 2012 at 5:00pm
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fiolmattias Triglot Groupie Sweden geocities.com/fiolmaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6680 days ago 62 posts - 129 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, Arabic (Written)
| Message 21 of 26 17 May 2012 at 4:57pm | IP Logged |
COF wrote:
fiolmattias wrote:
Perhaps that is one of many reasons? Other may be politics (we are by birth socialists,
which country do you think we symphatize more with ;) ), but that is perhaps a
different discussion all together.
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Err, since when was America more socialist than the UK? However, there does seem to be
an underlying anti-British sentiment in Sweden, as you have demonstrated.
The Swedish seem to view the UK as this ultra-right wing country, despite not having a
clue about British politics. It's all prejudice. |
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I thought this was a Language forum? :P
The Question is "Reasons for Swedes to have British dialect" And I answered what you
quoted. That we fell connected to the Brits traditionally because of politics. I think
you have to re-read my post, because you totally misread it.
Or please tell me if I have to re-write it so it gets clearer.
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5444 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 22 of 26 17 May 2012 at 11:16pm | IP Logged |
COF, can you please stop writing all this nonsense about the Swedes?
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4819 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 23 of 26 01 June 2012 at 1:03am | IP Logged |
Elexi wrote:
that is not a negative comment as most English people
I know love Scandinavian accents. |
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Yes, Briton here who can support this.
Also, Sweden is closer to England than it is to the USA, so why would it not be
reasonable for them to speak the "British" variant of English?
EDIT: The Europeans who speak English with an "American" accent to my ears, are
the Dutch.
Edited by montmorency on 01 June 2012 at 3:10pm
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6900 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 24 of 26 01 June 2012 at 8:33am | IP Logged |
montmorency wrote:
Also, Sweden is closer to England than it is to the USA, so why would it not be reasonable for them to speak the "British" variant of English? |
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A good question, but as I said on page 2 "hardly any kid will adopt it since the major part of the popular media is American." Not that Swedes sound particularly "American", but nearly everyone I've ever heard have an Americanized rhotic accent (except those who learned English half a century ago).
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