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| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5130 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes  Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 17 of 36 31 August 2012 at 9:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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Tennisfan, I don't want to belittle your pain... I can understand your frustration. But if you want to do you a favor,
than look at the loss of the Anki file as an (unwilling) act of liberation. No reviews anymore, no cards to create, no Anki holiday planning, no urge anymore to put interesting phrases into Anki when you come across them etc. I mean how can you get so dependent on a database? There's nothing in that database that is unique or of any particular 'value' to your learning process. Your TL is still there, ready to be listened to, spoken, read and written. There are still thousands of cool words and phrases and constructions to discover, learn, forget and relearn. There is still enough cool content to engage with to fill a lifetime, there are still millions of native speakers living the language and the culture. Everything single thing (word, phrase, grammar point, whatever) that was on your Anki cards is a thousand times and more out there in the wild, living and breathing in an ever-changing environment. It's like as if the building next to a national park hosting a photo exhibition about that national park got burned down. Too bad, but the national park is still there. And even though the picture of that big tree was cool and you loved to look at it over and over again, walking over to the real thing is way cooler! 8 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4665 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 18 of 36 01 September 2012 at 1:11am | IP Logged | ||
"Forever" ... you're kidding! Some of them don't last as long as it takes to take them out of the writer. Ever since I lost my first CD-R I started to make sure that all my home-written optical media has an MD5 checksum file and is checked on another DVD drive after having been written. I always burn from an ISO (and there's a checksum of the ISO ...) and the ISO ends up on my home NAS box (which uses RAID5). I have maybe 2TiB of data. I'll soon buy a 4TiB drive and use that as a backup target for the NAS system. When 4TiB drives are cheap enough I'll make sure I rotate backup drives and keep one offsite somewhere handy. As for the original poster's dilemma ... if you're going to go to a professional recovery outfit, look for recommendations and don't fiddle with the drive yourself. If your data isn't worth $1000 (or whatever), then there are various hints (of varying value) on the web. I've done the drive-board-swap trick myself, but it depends on finding an *identical* drive-board, on the drive-board not holding any vital configuration data and on the drive-board being at fault. I've never tried the freezer trick. Your anki data may seem like a big loss, but most of it is still in your head (or should be!). I do know how you feel though. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 19 of 36 01 September 2012 at 1:21am | IP Logged | ||
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| tennisfan Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5360 days ago 130 posts - 247 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish Studies: German | Message 20 of 36 01 September 2012 at 1:53am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, just a small update:
When I went to Apple they told me that the files could be gotten off my hard drive, but that they don't provide that service because it requires a clean room, special suits, etc. They gave me some suggestions including their own personal authorized suggestions for companies that do data recovery. I ended up looking online at forums and other reviews and they all recommended one company in particular, so I called them. Their website is very informative, and a bit intense, they do data recovery for massive Pentagon servers etc... I felt a bit stupid calling with my little hard drive but it's not something you want to just give to anyone. They apparently even have a suicide counselor at their company, in case someone is feeling suicidal, I don't know, if they lost their company's files, or are going to lose their job, etc. It is really a serious thing. The people I talked to were INCREDIBLY helpful. They were really confident they could get most of the stuff off the hard drive. No, it's not going to be cheap by any means---they quoted me anywhere between $500-$900, depending on how difficult it is to get the data off, how much of it there is, etc. It's not cheap, but I had a lot of really important stuff on there, not just my language learning things, but a lot of other stuff as well. I think I might end up doing it. But we'll see. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4671 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 21 of 36 01 September 2012 at 6:55am | IP Logged | ||
Ask anyone who's deleted a big deck whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, and I suspect they will say "good". 10,000 is too much. Keeping it is less efficient than starting over. Sorry about your crash, but regarding Anki, this is a good thing. I hope you will trust us, not waste your time and money, and grow in the process. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| petteri Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4932 days ago 117 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Spanish | Message 22 of 36 01 September 2012 at 11:28am | IP Logged | ||
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Usually hard disk it not completely broken, so if you mount the disk to PC or mac you have pretty good odds to rescue most files. If hard drive physically broke it is harder to recover files and you have to pay for special services.
Here are some tips for recovery: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=54376 If you do not understand the topic find a friend who does or pay for an expert. Edited by petteri on 01 September 2012 at 11:32am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4828 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 23 of 36 01 September 2012 at 3:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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@dampingwire: :-) Fair enough. You are talking at the semi-professional user level if
you are talking about RAID5 and offsite backup etc. I was talking about the person who perhaps occasionally or casually makes CDs or DVDs of his photos (or Anki decks) or whatever, and assumes that if he doesn't actually use them as coasters, and puts them away in a drawer somewhere, then they might last for 20 years. I believe there are so-called "archival quality" blank CDs/DVDs one can buy that might last a bit longer, but I have not looked into these. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Glarus Girl Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4575 days ago 50 posts - 108 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swiss-German | Message 24 of 36 01 September 2012 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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I back up everything three times with Clickfree it's
quick and easy and if you keep it plugged in it will remind you to back up every day. I've lost tons of stuff when my hard drive failed only to find the back had as well, now I take no chances! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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