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| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4665 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 1 of 39 06 September 2012 at 5:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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I recently watched part of a (UK) documentary in English and whenever there was someone from northern England being interviewed (they all had pretty thick northern-sounding accents, from what I could tell), they were subtitled. I believe I have also seen some strong southern U.S. accents subtitled before.
Have any of you seen this same sort of thing happen with any of your languages (native or otherwise)? Which dialects get subtitled in your language(s)? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4639 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 2 of 39 06 September 2012 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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That would never happen in Norway. There is a strong "pro-dialect" policy and people would get very offended if their dialect was subtitled on Norwegian TV.
On French TV, I have seen Canadian French being subtitled - I assume for most people in France "le Québécois" is quite hard to understand. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 3 of 39 06 September 2012 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've seen regional Flemish dialects get subtitled every once in a while. But they are
regional Flemish dialects that nobody here would be familiar with anyway. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Majka Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic kofoholici.wordpress Joined 4657 days ago 307 posts - 755 votes Speaks: Czech*, German, English Studies: French Studies: Russian | Message 4 of 39 06 September 2012 at 5:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have never seen subtitling "from Czech to Czech".
But I can remember vividly my surprise, when I have seen subtitled "Alp Austrian" to "Standard Austrian German" on TV News for the first time, some 20 years ago. German and Austrian dialects are much less pronounced nowadays - they still exist and are in use, but people often can and will speak in standard on TV. But there are still some people speaking only with strong regional accent where the understanding, even for natives, is very hard. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 5 of 39 06 September 2012 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4610 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek | Message 6 of 39 06 September 2012 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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On American TV, shows often subtitle ESL speakers and Brits, particularly the Scottish.
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6703 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 39 06 September 2012 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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The bad side about subtitling 'dialects' is of course that the speakers of certain dialects are expected to understand one other dialect which is called 'standard', while the speakers of that variant aren't expected to understand the dialects marked 'dialect - and that is suppression. But this may be the actual situation - i.e. the standard speakers can't or won't understand the socalled dialects, while the dialect speakers have had willy-nilly to learn the socalled standard language. And in this situation it may be better that the dialects are heard in the media, even if this means that speech in them is subtitled.
The optimal solution is that the original speech always is used, and that you can get subtitles on everything by pressing a button (with some kind of reader option for blind people). Edited by Iversen on 06 September 2012 at 6:44pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Michel1020 Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5017 days ago 365 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish, Dutch | Message 8 of 39 06 September 2012 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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How many languages do you expect us to learn if we have to understand dialects ?
I will learn luxemburger and maltese before any dialect and russian, japanese, mandarin, korean, arabic to mention a few before maltese. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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