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| a3 Triglot Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 5256 days ago 273 posts - 370 votes  Speaks: Bulgarian*, English, Russian Studies: Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish, Norwegian, Finnish | Message 1 of 9 15 September 2012 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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When reading news written in simple language, I understand most of the words, like 90%; however when reading a conversation in a chatroom - i.e. for real - it's vice versa or even worse. It's not that there are many unknown words to me - that's to be expected. It's that there are so few common words.
With some degree of certainty I can say that I know like the 1000 ~ 1500 most common words, but even 'most common', they appear to be used so rarely! Sometimes it even seems to me that the most basic and common words that are thought in courses are different than those that are used in reality. Is this the case in your TL too, or that's just me? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 2 of 9 15 September 2012 at 8:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Do you mean Finnish? Most of online talk is basically written puhekieli. It's fantastic for getting to know puhekieli but difficult when you only know the standard language, of course.
I imagine it might be similar with Norwegian, due to the awesome dialect policy. As for me, well, I find written colloquial Romanian embarrassingly difficult, mostly because they don't use the diacritics. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| a3 Triglot Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 5256 days ago 273 posts - 370 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, English, Russian Studies: Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish, Norwegian, Finnish | Message 3 of 9 15 September 2012 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Puhekieli might seem difficult, but it's quite easy to get used to - for if you were to repeat all day oletko, you'd come up by yourself with ooks.
I was talking entirely about vocabulary - the language seems to use many words for different shades of a meaning, which would be used in a single word in other languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 9 15 September 2012 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Um, any example?
Do you know the various suffixes? Most complicated words are built out of basic ones. I wouldn't say Finnish is more fussy about shades of meaning than any other language... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| a3 Triglot Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 5256 days ago 273 posts - 370 votes Speaks: Bulgarian*, English, Russian Studies: Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish, Norwegian, Finnish | Message 5 of 9 15 September 2012 at 9:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
I have learnt most of the suffixes, but knowing them and spotting them in practice and then working out the meaning which may be idiomatic/may have shifted in semantics are three totally different things.
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| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4873 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 6 of 9 15 September 2012 at 10:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Can you mention any Norwegian-specific examples? We Norwegians love to use our dialects
on Facebook, Twitter and so on, but most of us behave and post in Bokmål/Nynorsk on forums like diskusjon.no Never read comments on news sites though. Most of them can't understand common sense, let alone type properly. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 7 of 9 15 September 2012 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
Instead of simple news, how about just simple normal texts? :) Are you able to understand those on ymmärräsuomea? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 8 of 9 16 September 2012 at 11:04am | IP Logged | |||||
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I often have the reverse problem with Mandarin and Cantonese. That is, I can read a chatroom discussion without
problems, and reading a book poses little difficulty, but reading newspapers is frustrating and difficult. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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